Those scans talk about the GW destroying everything [something I never argued].
Your original comment was that 'all' of DC's powers were less than infinite. There is no proof supporting such a claim [especially when there's only evidence that beings from the Gods/Pantheons downward were powered by the GW]. 🙂
Originally posted by Galan007It isnt laughable. High Father was describing a very specific event and the power that was at stake should Darkseid claim it.
Considering what you're basing your argument on, this statement is laughable at best. 🙂Why don't you post something but a comment concerning the GW being nigh-infinite? See, I can do that too. 🙂
It says: "The great energy once channeled by the Guardians." Implying that they no longer utilize said energy. 🙂
In a nutshell. 🙂
Ds never said it had infinite power but High Father in this story called the full power of the godwave nigh infinite. I still woul d ike to know what you are basing that its infinite on? The Ds scan?
But all this energy when combined and if it was obtained by Ds would be enough to rule the dcu right?
The great energy the guardians used was from the godwave is my point.
Which being is more powerful than the full power of the godwave here in the dcu?
Originally posted by Galan007Ok well the full power of the godwave which was less than infinite >any other dcu being.
Those scans talk about the GW destroying everything [something I never argued].Your original comment was that 'all' of DC's powers were less than infinite. There is no proof supporting such a claim [especially when there's only evidence that beings from the Gods/Pantheons downward were powered by the GW]. 🙂
Which beings arent powered by the Source? Name three or four. I am curious as to who you think didnt receive their power from the godwave.
🙂
Originally posted by quanchi112I could take the time to answer these questions/statements, but deep down I know it wouldn't do any good - so I'm going to conclude my posting in this thread. 🙂 Hopefully someone else will take the time to do so. 🙂
It isnt laughable. High Father was describing a very specific event and the power that was at stake should Darkseid claim it.Ds never said it had infinite power but High Father in this story called the full power of the godwave nigh infinite. I still woul d ike to know what you are basing that its infinite on? The Ds scan?
But all this energy when combined and if it was obtained by Ds would be enough to rule the dcu right?
The great energy the guardians used was from the godwave is my point.
Which being is more powerful than the full power of the godwave here in the dcu?
Godspeed quanchi! 🙂
Originally posted by Galan007Id like to hear it so please go ahead. I backed my opinion and if you prove me wrong Ill concede as I havent read anywhere near close to everything.
I could take the time to answer these questions/statements, but deep down I know it wouldn't do any good - so I'm going to conclude my posting in this thread. 🙂 Hopefully someone else will take the time to do so. 🙂Godspeed quanchi! 🙂
If you dont want to debate and just want to chime in and say that the Source is infinite but not back it up its cool.
Take care friend. 🙂
Let me make something very clear, for a certain dim-bulb who's not seeing it.
The Green Lantern corp's power was responsible for Parallax and Ion. The Godwave powers them. Either of those 2 alone, would be enough to declare it near-infinite/infinite. But it also powers all the lantern corps, the Quantum field, the speed force, Superman and kryptonians, Entropy, the New Gods etc, etc, etc, etc, ETC.
The Godwave is ALL of those things.
That's every super power and almost every super powered entity in the DCU. NUFF SAID.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestYou mean it created the speedforce, an INFINITE realm of velocity that feeds all motion in reality!?[rhetorical question, don't answer it.]
Let me make something very clear, for a certain dim-bulb who's not seeing it.The Green Lantern corp's power was responsible for Parallax and Ion. The Godwave powers them. Either of those 2 alone, would be enough to declare it near-infinite/infinite. But it also powers all the lantern corps, the Quantum field, the speed force, Superman and kryptonians, Entropy, the New Gods etc, etc, etc, etc, ETC.
The Godwave is ALL of those things.
That's every super power and almost every super powered entity in the DCU. NUFF SAID.
http://img48.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jla82kebbin017bi.jpg
Amazing.
Originally posted by Juntai
You mean it created the speedforce, an INFINITE realm of velocity that feeds all motion in reality!?[rhetorical question, don't answer it.]http://img48.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jla82kebbin017bi.jpg
Amazing.
How dare you oppose what Highfather said. Everybody knows we should take what characters says as granted. dur
Originally posted by JuntaiYou mean it created the speedforce, an INFINITE realm of velocity that feeds all motion in reality!?[rhetorical question, don't answer it.]
http://img48.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jla82kebbin017bi.jpg
Amazing.
Hey Jun, if the godwave created everything, what did the Presence create?
Or the Source?
I though Michael created everything/sustains everything,
but that's contradictory to the godwave empowering everything.
Beyond that,
how would you differentiate the three?
Also,
what role does the GEB/Michael/Lucifer/Word/Logos/gog play in conjunction with the above?
One more, how does the Ultimator fit into all this
since I've heard it is the embodiment of everything?
Originally posted by Mr MasterDC comics, tends to ignore what happens in the Vertigo titles, and vice versa, in fact, the editors claim it's not even the same reality, which is wierd to explain to people and have them understand it because some events seem to happen in both Universes. The explanation is that many characters and events are similar[as they're helmed by the same parent company], but are seperated by artistic depiction. As such, a Vertigo writer can grab a DC character and start writing whatever they want, without a worry about continuity in the slightest. For example; Wesley Dodds has been DEAD in DC for some time, but they still write stories for him in Vertigo. Deadman is Boston Brand in DC, but in Vertigo it's Brandon Cayce. When one company has a title about a character, the other temporarily 'loses' it's rights so as not to confuse people. [In this case- Jonah Hex for Deadman] Vertigo and DC are entirely different entities. And although the pieces fit sometimes, they should remain seperate for the most part.
Wut up good friend.Hey Jun, if the godwave created everything, what did the Presence create?
Or the Source?
I though Michael created everything/sustains everything,
but that's contradictory to the godwave empowering everything.Beyond that,
how would you differentiate the three?Also,
what role does the GEB/Michael/Lucifer/Word/Logos/gog play in conjunction with the above?One more, how does the Ultimator fit into all this
since I've heard it is the embodiment of everything?
This is at least how it is now, when the Vertigo imprint was originally made, it wasn't altogether 'out of continuity', it was merely the "Adult" imprint, where stories that had things too graphic or themes too mature for an average kid reader to purchase. Many tales prior to it's formation where moved to this, and some still have effects in continuity, as such- Sandman and Animal are pretty much entrenched in continuity, however "Lucifer" as a solo endeavor, was launched and reigned during the more modern "Out of Continuity" era, despite it's close connection to Sandman- which indeed was a major selling point for the series. However it's events that aren't covered in "The Sandman", particularly, have never been seen or counted in DC continuity.
All of the above, the Source, the Word, The Logoz, THe Hand, The Earthborn Angels, the Godboy, The Voice, The Spectre/Wrath and pretty much every godly-type body and being linked to god, are written to be fragments of the true supreme being of a Judeo-Christian belief.
And the Godwave is contradictory to a lot of stuff, both now and then when it was released, but certainly seems to still be in continuity, afaik. As such, it created the power that the OAN battery holds? Well, the OAN battery is a represention of the combined willpower of the universe. The Godwave created willpower in the universes creatures? Hmm. There was a lot of inconsistancies in that story. Great read though!
Originally posted by Juntai
DC comics, tends to ignore what happens in the Vertigo titles, and vice versa, in fact, the editors claim it's not even the same reality, which is wierd to explain to people and have them understand it because some events seem to happen in both Universes. The explanation is that many characters and events are similar[as they're helmed by the same parent company], but are seperated by artistic depiction. As such, a Vertigo writer can grab a DC character and start writing whatever they want, without a worry about continuity in the slightest. For example; Wesley Dodds has been DEAD in DC for some time, but they still write stories for him in Vertigo. Deadman is Boston Brand in DC, but in Vertigo it's Brandon Cayce. When one company has a title about a character, the other temporarily 'loses' it's rights so as not to confuse people. [In this case- Jonah Hex for Deadman] Vertigo and DC are entirely different entities. And although the pieces fit sometimes, they should remain seperate for the most part.This is at least how it is now, when the Vertigo imprint was originally made, it wasn't altogether 'out of continuity', it was merely the "Adult" imprint, where stories that had things too graphic or themes too mature for an average kid reader to purchase. Many tales prior to it's formation where moved to this, and some still have effects in continuity, as such- Sandman and Animal are pretty much entrenched in continuity, however "Lucifer" as a solo endeavor, was launched and reigned during the more modern "Out of Continuity" era, despite it's close connection to Sandman- which indeed was a major selling point for the series.
All of the above, the Source, the Word, The Logoz, THe Hand, The Earthborn Angels, the Godboy, The Voice, The Spectre/Wrath and pretty much every godly-type body and being linked to god, are written to be fragments of the true supreme being of a Judeo-Christian belief.
And the Godwave is contradictory to a lot of stuff, both now and then when it was released, but certainly seems to still be in continuity, afaik. As such, it created the power that the OAN battery holds? Well, the OAN battery is a represention of the combined willpower of the universe. The Godwave created willpower in the universes creatures? Hmm. There was a lot of inconsistancies in that story. Great read though!
I took the Godwave to be the spark that starts the fire, but the source sustains the blaze.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Wut up good friend.Hey Jun, if the godwave created everything, what did the Presence create?
Or the Source?
I though Michael created everything/sustains everything,
but that's contradictory to the godwave empowering everything.Beyond that,
how would you differentiate the three?Also,
what role does the GEB/Michael/Lucifer/Word/Logos/gog play in conjunction with the above?One more, how does the Ultimator fit into all this
since I've heard it is the embodiment of everything?
Originally posted by Erik-LensherrDarkseid wasnt talking about anything specifically is the point. High Father described the source and what the actual godwave was and how powerful darkseid would become if he got all this power.
So it was intentional afterall, and he fell right into it 😂
Originally posted by TricksterPriestAltogether is nigh infinite but not quite infinite.
Let me make something very clear, for a certain dim-bulb who's not seeing it.The Green Lantern corp's power was responsible for Parallax and Ion. The Godwave powers them. Either of those 2 alone, would be enough to declare it near-infinite/infinite. But it also powers all the lantern corps, the Quantum field, the speed force, Superman and kryptonians, Entropy, the New Gods etc, etc, etc, etc, ETC.
The Godwave is ALL of those things.
That's every super power and almost every super powered entity in the DCU. NUFF SAID.
Originally posted by JuntaiI am talking about infinite power not velocity.
You mean it created the speedforce, an INFINITE realm of velocity that feeds all motion in reality!?[rhetorical question, don't answer it.]http://img48.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jla82kebbin017bi.jpg
Amazing.
Originally posted by Erik-LensherrHigh Father described the powers or the power of the godwave specifically. It wasnt hyperbole.
How dare you oppose what Highfather said. Everybody knows we should take what characters says as granted. dur
Originally posted by quanchi112
Darkseid wasnt talking about anything specifically is the point. High Father described the source and what the actual godwave was and how powerful darkseid would become if he got all this power.Altogether is nigh infinite but not quite infinite.
I am talking about infinite power not velocity.
High Father described the powers or the power of the godwave specifically. It wasnt hyperbole.
If anyone else says it's infinite, then you'd call bullshit and say DC powers aren't infinite. You are as transparent as the Air.
Originally posted by fangirl101My scan is talking about a specific event and the ramifications of tha event.
If anyone else says it's infinite, then you'd call bullshit and say DC powers aren't infinite. You are as transparent as the Air.
The other scan was darkseid just making a comment about nothing in particular.
Huge difference imo.
