Originally posted by fangirl101
He doesn't have ****ing limitless strength. His strength limit isn't known. Niether is hers. He wont' out muscle her anyway because she could stand still and out maneuver him. She did the same to power girl who is far faster than cain.
its debatable but it was hinted at when he became fullky powered again
Originally posted by fangirl101Yet Slade can get out of it.
Nah. The lasso can over come beings who have had ultimate power. And Cain can take the Godforce blast and that is cute, but can't take Shatter Star's sword? I'm sure Wondy's tiara can do more than that sword. And I never said Wondy was out muscling cain. But he isn't out muscling her.
He must be the Ultimate Power ever
You mean the one where he got his eye cut and healed it in a panel.
Good choice to go with. I mean you want to prove he can be beheaded so take a feat where he isn't and the wound was once again only minor. 😉
Originally posted by Newjak
Yet Slade can get out of it.He must be the Ultimate Power ever
You mean the one where he got his eye cut and healed it in a panel.
Good choice to go with. I mean you want to prove he can be beheaded so take a feat where he isn't and the wound was once again only minor. 😉
Did Shatter star have the strength to push his sword all the way thru juggs? Slade knows he is a comic character, that is why the lasso didn't work.
Originally posted by fangirl101Your point. He had a weapon that would bypass some of Jugg's enchantments and considering some of the things that guy has cut through. The fact he only poked out Cain's eye is a pretty good indicator that even with magical weapons Cain still maintains a large amount of durability against attacks.
Did Shatter star have the strength to push his sword all the way thru juggs? Slade knows he is a comic character, that is why the lasso didn't work.
Or should I mention the Godforce blast and how if what you say is true Cain should have had a hole through his body. He didn't and that attack is a highly magical powerful attack.
And I think you are missing the point. The guy used a plot device situation to get out of the lasso. Cain is a plot device incarnate. I would not doubt that he could get out of the Lasso in some like how Slade managed to get out of it.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
What makes me wonder on those boards:1) The high feats in DC don't matter in discussions. Any statement like unlimited str (without feats proving it) > DC str feats. Same is true for infinity, cosmics or battles.
2) DC chars are considered powerless if they don't have enough feats proving the contrary, it doesn't matter how far they are placed in the DC hierarchy. Marvel chars without feats are still considered infinite powerful, hyperbole or bragging is enough.
3) Low feats are an legal way to prove that an DC char would loose, while high feats are ignored because of the low feats. The low feats of Marvel chars are considered PIS and completly ignored, only high feats and assumptions, hyperbole are enough to prove the infinite power of an Marvel char (even if he lack the feats).
4) The MARVEL rating system (skyfather, herald etc) is forced upon DC chars even though those chars have feats beyond some of those levels. A DC char who has an similar counterpart in Marvel is autoplaced in the level of the Marvel char, all his feats don't matter then....
It's funny, but pretty onesided, at least that's my impression 😉
Please. If I have to hear about another DC character speedblitzing somebody, i'm gonna puke. To me its almost as though Flash, WW, Superman, GL, and even Batman at times, shouldnt even be mentioned in character battles due to the fact that they should never lose. Its rediculious. Last I heard, Aquaman picked up a corner of a city or something stupid like that. Hell, whats next, the Wonder Twins taking over the universe?
Originally posted by Newjak
Your point. He had a weapon that would bypass some of Jugg's enchantments and considering some of the things that guy has cut through. The fact he only poked out Cain's eye is a pretty good indicator that even with magical weapons Cain still maintains a large amount of durability against attacks.Or should I mention the Godforce blast and how if what you say is true Cain should have had a hole through his body. He didn't and that attack is a highly magical powerful attack.
And I think you are missing the point. The guy used a plot device situation to get out of the lasso. Cain is a plot device incarnate. I would not doubt that he could get out of the Lasso in some like how Slade managed to get out of it.
What the HELL? Cain has CERTAIN plot device character aspects. But knowing he is a comic character to overide an enchatment that some cosmics can't even over ride is NOT something that is comparable to Cain. If Cain is tied up in the lasso, he WON"T BE MOVING. Either because he can't break the lasso and would be immobile, or because His will will be gone. And Shatter Star's sword is in no way comparible to a magical tiara forged by the God Hephestius. Nor is his strength or SKILL even close to Diana's. The very fact that he was able to pierce Juggy's eye should indicate that a stronger person, with a better magical weapon would do BETTER!!
Originally posted by tkitna
Please. If I have to hear about another DC character speedblitzing somebody, i'm gonna puke. To me its almost as though Flash, WW, Superman, GL, and even Batman at times, shouldnt even be mentioned in character battles due to the fact that they should never lose. Its rediculious. Last I heard, Aquaman picked up a corner of a city or something stupid like that. Hell, whats next, the Wonder Twins taking over the universe?
The Wonder Twins are part of a council of Elementals that do run an empire. They were kidnapped in some conspiracy to over throw thier empire. One can turn into any animal, and one can turn into any kind of storm, atmosphere etc. 😱
Originally posted by fangirl101Really cause Cain plot device power happens to be that he is unstoppable. I could see Cain literally keep moving if he was lassoed. Losing his will dear do you really wanna talk about Cain's will power ability to overcome attacks against it.
What the HELL? Cain has CERTAIN plot device character aspects. But knowing he is a comic character to overide an enchatment that some cosmics can't even over ride is NOT something that is comparable to Cain. If Cain is tied up in the lasso, he WON"T BE MOVING. Either because he can't break the lasso and would be immobile, or because His will will be gone. And Shatter Star's sword is in no way comparible to a magical tiara forged by the God Hephestius. Nor is his strength or SKILL even close to Diana's. The very fact that he was able to pierce Juggy's eye should indicate that a stronger person, with a better magical weapon would do BETTER!!
Like I said like Slade the Juggernaut is a plot device. Simply cause Slade used one way to overcome the lasso doesn't mean Juggernaut would have to use the same one. Like I said above the guy is unstoppable. He is likely to keep walking through the thing then be stopped dead in his tracks.
Um stronger people with better magical weapons????? I do seem to recall a certain person fitting that description. Oh yeah Thor fits that thing perfectly and his weapon couldn't hurt Cain even when using it's magical based attacks.
There wasn't a hole in Cain's body and Thor is just as strong WW and with a more powerful magical weapon then her sword.
But as to the lasso and being cut. I don't really see the need to argue with you more about it. I mean we're talking about a guy who simply did not die from an attack that stripped him to his bones. Why cause Cain refused to die.
I really do not think I need to explain to the plot device nature of the Juggernaut any further than that 😉
WW would not stop Cain in his tracks nor would she behead him. Better have tried and failed.
Originally posted by jalek moye
he has limitless stregnth umm i forget his name but the guy who made the gem feeds him the strgnth when its neededits debatable but it was hinted at when he became fullky powered again
You don't know who made "cytorrak's gem" but you made a topic about Juggernaut 😐
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Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Marvel says Juggernaut has unlimited potential. That's good enough for me.
Unlimited str, Unlimited potential unstoppable.
So Juggy could push an Celestial or Galactus and they could not stopp him with their Strength? I mean, Juggys strength is limitless, they could try to stop him with their hands and he would keep on moving, pushing them, they can limitless strength, but juggy is unstoppable right?
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Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Unlimited str, Unlimited potential unstoppable.So Juggy could push an Celestial or Galactus and they could not stopp him with their Strength? I mean, Juggys strength is limitless, they could try to stop him with their hands and he would keep on moving, pushing them, they can limitless strength, but juggy is unstoppable right?
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That question probably doesn't matter much in this particular case since a Celestial or Galactus could stop WW in the same situation.
After seeing the sorts of god-level attacks Juggy has survived I just don't think the tiara, sword, or lasso are going to do much at all to Juggernaut, but of course nobody can say for sure one way or the other.
IMO WW's only chance is BFR removal or stalemate since she's too fast for Cain.