thoughts on sentry vs wwh

Originally posted by bbrem123
ur stating false statements if u say the hulk was calm during the fight

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Ba-ba-ba-bingo! Co-signed.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
yup, worlbreaker hulk is the real deal.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
If it helps you reconcile 'World War Hulk,' it's obvious Sentry had never really unleashed his power in the first place and his mental state was simply about letting go of his inhibitions and fears. His focus was not on beating WWH in a fight. I believe he was truly going all out. But he was not truly going all out to defeat WWH. If he was, he wouldn't so nonchalantly take WWH's pounding. He'd defend, dodge, counter, etc. He was going all out for the sake of going all out.

That's a pretty significant handicap. It's like Frazier standing there and letting Ali hit him so that he can get warmed up and let loose and still pretty much just stand there and let Ali hit him while he gives a few good shots of his own. If Sentry was fighting smart, who knows? But I spose on forum matches, CIS is still on and he may not have much else to offer until we see more.

Its quite sad that people dont evn seem to know the true meaning of DURABILITY. Durability DOES INCLUDE A PERSONS HEALING FACTOR. The durability of a charcter is entirely different from their Physical resistance to injury. Getting hit by things and attacks without being hurt at all is a great display of physical resistance to injury. Howver durability is concerned with the ability of a person or something to last a period of time without totally breaking down. WWH resistance to physical injury was not that good but his ability to instantly repair almost any injury made him a VERY durable charcter. That is he was able to take a lot of punishment without going down.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Its quite sad that people dont evn seem to know the true meaning of DURABILITY. Durability DOES INCLUDE A PERSONS HEALING FACTOR. The durability of a charcter is entirely different from their Physical resistance to injury. Getting hit by things and attacks without being hurt at all is a great display of physical resistance to injury. Howver durability is concerned with the ability of a person or something to last a period of time without totally breaking down. WWH resistance to physical injury was not that good but his ability to instantly repair almost any injury made him a VERY durable charcter. That is he was able to take a lot of punishment without going down.

Durability has to do with a bodies resistance to damage. Next you'll be saying Wolvrerine is more durable than Colossus or the Thing simply because they don't have healing factors. If you get shredded up by something that doesn't hurt or shred another character healing factor or not your durability is lower.

The healing factor is Hulks fail safe, it doesn't affect his actual resistance to damage, it makes him extremely tolerant to damage but his actual durability is not boosted by it, therefore it doesn't add to his durability.

Originally posted by Allankles
Durability has to do with a bodies resistance to damage. Next you'll be saying Wolvrerine is more durable than Colossus or the Thing simply because they don't have healing factors. If you get shredded up by something that doesn't hurt or shred another character healing factor or not your durability is lower.

The healing factor is Hulks fail safe, it doesn't affect his actual resistance to damage, it makes him extremely tolerant to damage but his actual durability is not boosted by it, therefore it doesn't add to his durability.

Durability is mainly concerned with the ability to last for a long time without sustaining permanent damage or wear that will make it unable to function. It is concerned with the state of an object or thing over a period of time. If u get shredded up by something another charcter is unhurt by ur resistance to injury is lower but if over the period of time you end up being able to take heavier punishment than that charcter due to HF or anything else then yes u are more durable.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Durability is mainly concerned with the ability to last for a long time without sustaining permanent damage or wear that will make it unable to function. It is concerned with the state of an object or thing over a period of time.

Originally posted by Mindset
you got that right from the dictionary huh?

Er yeah i did. Nothings wrong wit dat.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Er yeah i did. Nothings wrong wit dat.

Didn't say there was, do you think there is?

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Durability is mainly concerned with the ability to last for a long time without sustaining permanent damage or wear that will make it unable to function. It is concerned with the state of an object or thing over a period of time. If u get shredded up by something another charcter is unhurt by ur resistance to injury is lower but if over the period of time you end up being able to take heavier punishment than that charcter due to HF or anything else then yes u are more durable.

Originally posted by Juntai
So would you say Deadpool is more durable than Doomsday?

Originally posted by Galan007
Doomsday is able to withstand far more, so his durability >>>. However, their regenerative qualities [how rapidly they heal from the damage recieved] is probably about the same [possibly a nod to DD]. Difference is, DD can't be hurt the same way twice - whereas DP can.

You know the answer Jun. 😛

DP > Supes

My final thoughts on WWH was that theres over 190 posts with many people interpreting the fight and charcterization differently. To me, thats bad writing. When said writer has to be asked to explain things, that makes it even worse. Regardless of who beat who, the real loser here is Pak (or us the people who actually bought the books and read them).

Originally posted by Juntai
OK, better yet, Superman and Deadpool?
Since Superman doesn't have the same level of regeration.

Supes may not have the same level of regen that DP has but he actually can take considerably more punishment than deadpool. Supes can survive attacks that would atomize deadpool so he would have nothing to heal from. Remember, i mentioned that the more durable person would be able to take heavier punishment. Therefore supes is considerably more durable than deadpool.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Supes may not have the same level of regen that DP has but he actually can take considerably more punishment than deadpool. Supes can survive attacks that would atomize deadpool so he would have nothing to heal from. Remember, i mentioned that the more durable person would be able to take heavier punishment. Therefore supes is considerably more durable than deadpool.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
durable means
resilience over time. superman is technically more durable since most attacks on him don't even scratch him, for example if a pile driver in a factory were to trap superman under it's pressure without him being able to free himself, he would be able to take the pressure without deformation. wade on the other hand would be squashed into an unrecognizable mess, though he would reform he was still physically changed while he experienced the same event superman did.

You said it resilience over time Supes howver is more resilient than deadpool. As i said he can far more punisshment than DP can evn with his HF and he is therefore more durable. And i agree with ur analogy but id rather use it when the two beings can take an equal amount of total punishment.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
You said it resilience over time Supes howver is more resilient than deadpool. As i said he can far more punisshment than DP can evn with his HF and he is therefore more durable. And i agree with ur analogy but id rather use it when the two beings can take an equal amount of total punishment.

wade will still heal but the definition of the word requires a lack of physical change over time during natural wear and tear or attack in the case of living tissue.

i can't make it any more clearer than that.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
it takes a lot to damage superman, wade still has (peak) human durability so a knife will cut/penetrate/dismember him, therefor superman is more durable.

wade will still heal but the definition of the word requires a lack of physical change over time during natural wear and tear or attack in the case of living tissue.

i can't make it any more clearer than that.

I think we both agree superman is more durable so theres no need dwelling there. Now what we have to note is the word resilience. In this case the word resilience would not only mean a beings resistance to injuries but would also include whatever other mechanism which the being used to keep itself in good shape over a period of time. The definiton of the word talks about the lack of damage which would reduce the objects functionality over a period of time. Now because we are not simply talking about objects here but beings, we have to include whatever mechanism such beings use to maintain itself which incudes HF. Durability is mainly about the continued functionality of something and not just its physical appearance( Yes in the case of some items the two go hand in hand but not always). If i have two tvs one made of a tougher material than the other and i expose both of them to the same conditions the more durable one is not necceessarily the one that is in better physical condition but the one that serves me for a longer period. If the one that is made of tougher material has few scratches but is unable to function through the rigours of evry day use as well as the second one which might have more scratches then the one that functions the longer is the more durable product. Due to its resilience and ability to continue functioning over time.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
I think we both agree superman is more durable so theres no need dwelling there. Now what we have to note is the word resilience. In this case the word resilience would not only mean a beings resistance to injuries but would also include whatever other mechanism which the being used to keep itself in good shape over a period of time. The definiton of the word talks about the lack of damage which would reduce the objects functionality over a period of time. Now because we are not simply talking about objects here but beings, we have to include whatever mechanism such beings use to maintain itself which incudes HF. Durability is mainly about the continued functionality of something and not just its physical appearance( Yes in the case of some items the two go hand in hand but not always). If i have two tvs one made of a tougher material than the other and i expose both of them to the same conditions the more durable one is not necceessarily the one that is in better physical condition but the one that serves me for a longer period. If the one that is made of tougher material has few scratches but is unable to function through the rigours of evry day use as well as the second one which might have more scratches then the one that functions the longer is the more durable product. Due to its resilience and ability to continue functioning over time.

a wrench, hammer, shield, shell, teeth, and millions or other tools and substances that get subjected to torque forces or impact have feasible measures of durability.

resilience is from the word resolute as in staying true to one's self. deadpool wins that word as his healing factor always returns him to the condition he was prior to the damage taken. no conventional death for him.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
durability can only be applied to a television if it's being dropped or beaten, not turned on, that's quality/endurance.

a wrench, hammer, shield, shell, teeth, and millions or other tools and substances that get subjected to torque forces or impact have feasible measures of durability.

resilience is from the word resolute as in staying true to one's self. deadpool wins that word as his healing factor always returns him to the condition he was prior to the damage taken. no conventional death for him.

You urself stated that durability is resilience over time. You have also said that deadpools healin factor makes him very resilient. Therefore you have proved my point. A healing factor is part of durability.