The novel had a considerably more badass way of displaying their deaths. Meh. They should've let some uber stuntsmen do the work for the Sidious vs. Mace fight- I mean, we're talking about some of the fastest duelists in history here. Instead, we get two old men going at it while using cool CGI tricks (though, kudos to Ian McDiarmid. He did an excellent job for a men his age- much better than Samuel mada****in' Jackson).
Sidious vs. The Posse was, overall, the worst fight in the prequels. Though I forgive RotS for displaying that, because Sidious vs. Yoda and Anakin vs. Obi-Wan are the best dueling sequences in Star Wars history. xD
And Faunus, we cannot let Lucas' incompetence get in the way of our debate- otherwise, I can go off and say Mace is a slow moron because of the way they depicted him in the movie.
Oh, Sidious was great in most of RotS- in no small part due to Ian McDiarmid's performance. His fight with Yoda was one of the best- I really like how Lucas decided to make the lightsaber duel between them even better than the fight between Dooku and Yoda. One of the fastest lightsaber duels in memory. Great stuff, really. The only bad thing I can say about Sidious in the RotS movie is, indeed, the fight between Mace and him.
His depictions in the RotS novel was incredibly awesome. 'Specially his fight with Mace- which, I might add, was the best fight in the novel. Sithisis was incredible.
DE can go to hell for all that I care, along with most of the post-RotJ works. It sucks. After watching RotS and RotJ, it seriously pissed me off that the Sith still survive after Anakin kill Sidious- it cheapens his struggle and the movies and general. Therefore, I ignore them completely most of the time.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
yes and he sed the reason was they culdnt compete with sidious.. so whats makes you think they wuld be able to compete against bane?
the whole point of Bane's order was: The Apprentice would always become more powerful than his master and kill the master. Logic leads to a hard to believe, but (imagine this!) logical conclusion: Bane is the weakest of his order by his OWN DESIGN. Sidious is the most powerful of that order by BANE'S OWN DESIGN. We receive nothing in novelization, or in movies, or games, or ANYTHING else to tell us any differently, so until we find out for sure that Zannah in her prime isn't more powerful than Bane in his prime, we have to assume that his order worked correctly in a Bane<Zannah<Zannah's apprentice<.....<Plageious<Sidious sort of way.
Originally posted by Master CrimzonSidious' expressions made me want to tear my eyes out, but the part where he discusses the nature of the Dark side with Anakin was solid, as was the little dialogue before that pathetic duel with Mace.
Oh, Sidious was great in most of RotS- in no small part due to Ian McDiarmid's performance. His fight with Yoda was one of the best- I really like how Lucas decided to make the lightsaber duel between them even better than the fight between Dooku and Yoda. One of the fastest lightsaber duels in memory. Great stuff, really. The only bad thing I can say about Sidious in the RotS movie is, indeed, the fight between Mace and him.
DE can go to hell for all that I care, along with most of the post-RotJ works. It sucks. After watching RotS and RotJ, it seriously pissed me off that the Sith still survive after Anakin kill Sidious- it cheapens his struggle and the movies and general. Therefore, I ignore them completely most of the time.Worse, they're not even good characters. Krayt is unique at least, but Caedus is a horrendous waste of a decent character.
Originally posted by truejediNo, we don't. Sidious killed his master in his sleep. Zannah, as she revealed in RoT, was trying to convince Bane to rid himself of the orbalisks all along, as she suspected it would make killing him an easier task.
we have to assume that his order worked correctly in a Bane<Zannah<Zannah's apprentice<.....<Plageious<Sidious sort of way.
The Sith of Bane's order are smart - they don't have to be more powerful or more skilled in combat than their masters to kill them, and it would make no sense at all for there to be a Force-user available to each successive generation that equaled or exceeded Bane in terms of potential. Palpatine was, essentially, the physical manifestation of everything the Sith Order had valued. The smartest, the strongest, and the most ambitious.
Sidious' expresions in his fight against Yoda were ridiculous, aside from the laughter. That was awesome. Sidious at his best, really. Though I may be biased- seeing as RotS was my favorite Star Wars movie, and shall remain that forever. All of the characters came at their best- oh, except for Padme. She was horrendous in RotS. Anywayz- Sidious' exaggerrated performance, while ridiculous at times, was, overall, satisfactory- as was his fight with Yoda, that was totally thrilling and badass.
Caedus is an Anakin ripoff. Luke is the stupidest character in Star Wars. Han and Leia survivng makes me want to cut my wrists. For me, Star Wars ended after RotJ- and I won't be reading any more post RotJ-novels. Why spoil the name of Star Wars?
The problem with the Legacy of the Force series is that it did not give us a truly formidable villain; the authors, rather than make Caedus a cunning or clever individual, decided (at the last minute) to cram him with all sorts of esoteric powers and abilities -- including the shatterpoint charism -- in an attempt to nullify his apparently overwhelming stupidity. That and the murders of Gilad Pellaeon and Mara Jade Skywalker were absolutely unnecessary; you only kill of two characters like that if their deaths mean something. The series was utter shit, so they died for nothing. Incidentally, they were the two most interesting characters alive at that point. I would have preferred that Leia died. Han and Leia are too old and too weak to be anything other than support, they need to be relegated to sideline duty or political action.
What we need is a novel (I'll settle for a comic series... even though I despise comics) concerning Vergere's supposed allegiance to the Sith, studying of Count Dooku, attempted murder of Darth Sidious, and her subsequent failure and retreat into the Unknown Regions.