I think the internet has ruined comics for me but it's really my fault for letting that happen. I mean solicits that are months in advance, previews...heck now days I find myself skipping the first 7 pages of a comic since I already read them in a preview. Not to mention speculation threads, when you read 200 posts about a comic and everyone is giving their two cents one of those users are bound to be on the right track.
Another example is Greg Lands art. I would never had known that Land traces porn if it wasn't for the internet. In fact I don't think I'd keep seeing famous people in compromising positions in a Land issue if it wasn't for the internet.
I started being less active on forums and I find myself liking Matt Fractions UXM run a lot more then I did at the beginning of the year.
The one thing that the internet has done for me is broaden my comic book list.
Swanky,
Should get that memory looked at.
Myself, Never, Arachnoid Freak and a few others were just that around the Summer of '04, earlier maybe.
It's notably because from the moment I joined I took centre stage in what was one of (Possibly IS THE biggest) the biggest Vs Forum debates ever (Back when there was just two comics forums).
Unless you're confusing being respected with being liked, because only a few really liked me. I was here before Tron, Digi etc.
Originally posted by Original Smurph
Fair enough. I can agree that simply ignoring events because you don't like them is idiocy.My issue was with "Also, I get the impression that writers themselves could come in here and say "No, you're wrong.", and some of you would still argue. ".
Writers can make wrong choices.
Then what's the problem? We essentially agree.
-AC
i think the problem stems from the definition of "wrong". a writer who writes a character in such a way that said character acts differently than his most consistent depictions show him acting, MAY be viewed as "wrong" in the eyes of many readers. that's where the notion of PIS stems from.
i THINK what AC is trying to get at is the fact that it really is NOT "wrong", it's simply the way THAT WRITER VIEWS THAT CHARACTER. and regardless of whether we as readers believe it to be wrong is irrelevent.
does writing someone in a way that is inconsistent with the majority of their showings constitute "wrongness?"
i would guess it would depend on the severity of the change in the character. i think most of the time writers stay true to the IDEA of the character, though the details of that character may be changed. there are times in daredevil's history where he is portrayed as my FAVOURITE character, hercules likewise. but their treatment at the hands of certain writers have made them LESS than my favourites. do i think those times they have been portrayed "wrongly?"
no. they just weren't portrayed the way i liked them BEST. the idea that a writer has really "screwed up" and hence the entirety of an arc, or the depiction of a character should be discounted or thrust aside and labelled taboo or "PIS" is something i really have no stomach for and does smack of fan arrogance. using the way a character has been most consistently portrayed is--imo--the best way to debate a character. but in order to do that, you need to have a sense of history of the character. that becomes a problem at times.
then of course, there is the pure sadistic pleasure i gain at times in simply arguing the minutiae . . . 😖hifty:
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Swanky,Should get that memory looked at.
Myself, Never, Arachnoid Freak and a few others were just that around the Summer of '04, earlier maybe.
It's notably because from the moment I joined I took centre stage in what was one of (Possibly IS THE biggest) the biggest Vs Forum debates ever (Back when there was just two comics forums).
Unless you're confusing being respected with being liked, because only a few really liked me. I was here before Tron, Digi etc.
I don't know, maybe it depends on who you ask, or what you consider being "respected" on the comic book versus forum.
Are you talking about the Hulk vs Juggernaut debate?
I'm 1.
Originally posted by leonidas
geez, where's the old spark debbie downer . . .?heh
fact of life swank--with age comes ambivalence. 🙂
I still pop into threads occasionally but where's it going to get me? Plus a lot of the match ups are dumb. Also, every time a character related to Wolverine is mentioned friggin' Battlehammer has to show up and tell us how that person's blood was replaced with snakes or something so he wasn't at his best.
Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
I'm 1.Kids and their Saturday Night Theater references!
I still pop into threads occasionally but where's it going to get me? Plus a lot of the match ups are dumb. Also, every time a character related to Wolverine is mentioned friggin' Battlehammer has to show up and tell us how that person's blood was replaced with snakes or something so he wasn't at his best.
So THAT is his problem.
Thanks for the heads up, now I know why he was acting like such a complete tool.
-AC