From my point of view, Palpatine has no way to survive death as it hasn't been shown in the movie (and we are only using the movie version if I understand correctly) that he can transport his soul and cheat death in the EU is, i don't know, maybe not of so much use here, Voldemort however we know has the Horcruxes because a entire movie eventually will be made about Harry looking after them...
Originally posted by Utrigita
From my point of view, Palpatine has no way to survive death as it hasn't been shown in the movie (and we are only using the movie version if I understand correctly) that he can transport his soul and cheat death in the EU is, i don't know, maybe not of so much use here, Voldemort however we know has the Horcruxes because a entire movie eventually will be made about Harry looking after them...
Since his spirit fled Endor immediately afterwards, there would be no reason for the movie to show all. The ability to cheat death was something that Palpatine learned during the OT. If you want to get technical, no movie has yet to display Voldemort with his horcruxes, so perhaps we should eliminate those as well?
Originally posted by Gideon
Since his spirit fled Endor immediately afterwards, there would be no reason for the movie to show all. The ability to cheat death was something that Palpatine learned during the OT. If you want to get technical, no movie has yet to display Voldemort with his horcruxes, so perhaps we should eliminate those as well?
I know Gideon,
But it isn't showed in the movie, which is my point (getting technical), Voldemort has been shown in the first movie (when Quirrell was killed, Voldemorts spirit survived) to cheat death.
Not quiet the movie will show the Horcruxes that we know as a fact will be the case, will the movies concerning Star Wars ever show that Palpatine cheated death? Most likely not.
Originally posted by Man of Christ
[b]no sir, as this is the movie versus forum so im using them at thier peaks in films.its merely to test all areas for a fuller perspective
Question to all: in Harry Potter OTP (order of the Phoenix)
voldemort conjures a fire dragon and shoots it at dumbledore in thier duel, if he did this do palpatine, how could palpatine respond? [/B]
If I'm not mistaking it was man of christ that made this thread.
Originally posted by Gideon
Again, if it is the time period during the movies, Palpatine's ability to transcend death does apply.
As im sure there are many opinions out there here is my ruling:
The cheating death thing does not apply
Reasons:
this is the movie versus forum and the whole "cheat death" thing is contingent upon comic book knowlege and we are not using the comics as a point of refrence.
basically the only reason people use the "cheat death" thing is because of comic book knowlege.
if the comic did not exist then people wouldnt use the cheat death concept, so while some may consider it cannon, i am consiering it immaterial, and irrelevant for this thread because it is EU matterial and has nothing to do with the movie.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
How so? It is not stated in the movies that he can cheat death, therefore it is not applicable here.
And it hasn't been stated in any Harry Potter movie that Voldemort can cheat death, either. If we're going to apply these fights to JUST WHAT WE SEE IN THE MOVIE (and not something we can infer that they have), neither of them possess that power.
Originally posted by Gideon
And it hasn't been stated in any Harry Potter movie that Voldemort can cheat death, either. If we're going to apply these fights to JUST WHAT WE SEE IN THE MOVIE (and not something we can infer that they have), neither of them possess that power.
We just see him survive death in the first film.