Originally posted by Gideon
Since his spirit fled Endor immediately afterwards, there would be no reason for the movie to show all. The ability to cheat death was something that Palpatine learned during the OT. If you want to get technical, no movie has yet to display Voldemort with his horcruxes, so perhaps we should eliminate those as well?
EU is non-canon so says GL.
Originally posted by Gideon
And it hasn't been stated in any Harry Potter movie that Voldemort can cheat death, either. If we're going to apply these fights to JUST WHAT WE SEE IN THE MOVIE (and not something we can infer that they have), neither of them possess that power.
Originally posted by Utrigita
We just see him survive death in the first film.
Lets compare the feats shall we:
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66That's not comparing feats.
Lets compare the feats shall we:
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
Can Voldermort even use magic without his wand?
Yes but he can't use nearly as many spells but he can still use telekenisis telepathy and use shields and that thing he did in HPOTP when he shot the magical dark stuff at dumbledore and repulse it he can apparate create those tentacles he did in the last battle against harry deflect other projectiles with his hand so he has a well placed arsenal without his wand but he can't use the more we'll know spells like avada kedavra so he can't go up against sidious head to head but deflect everything sidious throws against and do a good counter as well
So it won't be as flashy but it is still not going to be a curb stomp for sidious I believe with his wand voldemort would triumph but without his wand he won't be able to do the spells he is used to doing but could make new ones so I believe it might be a tie or voldemort wins but narrowly
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
Can Voldermort even use magic without his wand?
Yes but he can't use nearly as many spells but he can still use telekenisis telepathy and use shields and that thing he did in HPOTP when he shot the magical dark stuff at dumbledore and repulse it he can apparate create those tentacles he did in the last battle against harry deflect other projectiles with his hand so he has a well placed arsenal without his wand but he can't use the more we'll know spells like avada kedavra so he can't go up against sidious head to head but deflect everything sidious throws against and do a good counter as well
So it won't be as flashy but it is still not going to be a curb stomp for sidious I believe with his wand voldemort would triumph but without his wand he won't be able to do the spells he is used to doing but could make new ones so I believe it might be a tie or voldemort wins but narrowly