Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Errr. How would Wolverine win in the first scenario at all? I doubt even Elektra or Shiva with weapons could take on all those foes barehanded.The second scenario is just pure spite.
He wins because - he has Christs HF - claws that dmg steel - Mad uber MA skills, is an uber brawler too - and all he need is one good swipe on each, which isnt difficult considering they are un-armed..i would forsee lots of missing fingers and hands. he wouldnt stomp..but eventually (being the only one not bleeding or bruised) he could pull it... better?
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
I didn't understand a goddamn thing you just said there.
None of the listed hold the means to defeat Wolverine H2H. Wolverine took beating from both Spiderman and Hulk and kept on walking. Any one of those two hold more punch power alone than the entire six listed combined.
Originally posted by BattlehammerYou're supposed to be ignoring me, remember? And you're supposed to not vicariously respond to my posts, remember? If you've changed your mind. That's fine. You're the one who put me on ignore, not the other way around. Either way, I'll let jinzin argue with you about Elektra vs Wolverine.
niether elektra or shiva with weapons could come closes to taking wolverine a majority.........................
Originally posted by Starscream M
batman is a better fighter because he has to be, that is simply common sense
No. That's makes absolutely NO sense. Who's the better fighter? The criminal who gets tossed into a no holds barred cage fight overseas, or the professional who trains to fight as a dayjob learning from the best?
Necessity doesn't dictate skill level. Guys like Moonknight, Night Thrasher, and Flag Jack all "have to be" better fighters than Logan because they can't afford to get hit severly, but that doesn't automatically mean that they are. There's no common or UNcommon sense behind that statement.
Originally posted by Starscream M
batman doesn't have HF and claws and unbreakable skeletons as clutch that logan has
Originally posted by Starscream MSometimes, sure, because he can afford to. Does he fight like that when he can't? Uh, NO.
logan fights careless and often like a rabid animal, batman has to fight focused and with his A game all the time
Originally posted by Obsidian Fury100 martial arts means nothing, according to Marvel, Wolverine knows EVERY martial art that's documented in the MU and some that aren't. He's a level seven.
Over 100 martial arts mastered, and fought Karate Kid efficiently.
And fighting KK efficiently? So what?
One fight he was fighting a KK who was disoriented, AMNESIC and STILL nailed Batman 3 times before Batman landed one solid offensive. By the end of that fight Batman was bloodied, his suit was tore the f*** up, he had a hernia and lost his utility belt. KK wasn't even trying and all he had was one black eye.
The other fight went a little better, but relaunch KK isn't even that impressive to begin with, he's definitely no pre crisis.
So he can see weaknesses at times like Karnak, so what? Wolverine still has similar showings disarming Azreal without effort, disarming Ogun without effort, briefly stalemating Gamora, and he absolutely manhandled Shang Chi, who's already esimated by many to be superior to Bats in sheer skill.
Shit, Shang's stated to be a master of every martial art, and beat a handful of men who knew every martial art at the same time and he still got owned by Logan.
Originally posted by Obsidian Fury
Remember that in Scenario 1, Batman will go in with hands only, which is why I consider Scenario 1 a loss. He will not be allowed his gear.It is pretty much 100% agreed that Wolverine won't make it in Scenario 2 😄
That argument wasn't even directed at scenario 1 or 2. 😕