Murder or Self Defense?

Read this article about a shooting here in Houston....

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/5866865.html

Well? Justified shooting, or Vigilantism?

It's neither. Can't be self defense but I don't see it as murder. The man is protecting the neighborhood.

Seriously, we need people to be more apt to stick up for their own neighborhoods. Now in places where crime is scarce, people will say he is wrong, but in certain places IT IS NEEDED.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/tonymartin

reminds me of the Tony Martin case...he was senteced to several years in prison for defending his property against burglers who had robbed him 4 times in 6 months

In a legal sense it is vigilantism. Personally I think he was completely justified in shooting after the guy charged at him.

It's a hard one but I reckon it was a justifed action of self defence.

Justified 100%. Probably would've gotten away with the crime otherwise. Now they won't be pulling anymore of that shit.

Originally posted by AngryManatee
Justified 100%. Probably would've gotten away with the crime otherwise. Now they won't be pulling anymore of that shit.

Theft isn't usually the kind of thing someone deserves to get killed over. The only thing that justifies what he did was that they attacked him.

Did you guys hear the 911 call? The operator repeatedly told him NOT to go outside.

Murder.

-AC

Definitely murder.

You break into a house in Texas, that is the risk you take. If I was the neighbor who's house was broken into, I would call the man a hero.

That shows the kind of person you are, then - someone who puts more worth in material possessions than a person's life.

You may well call him a hero, but it was not his business to take the law into his own hands and deal out a punishment completely unfit for the crime.

Maybe I am, I would shoot a criminal in my house if he so much as picked up a fork. Honestly I would shoot him just from breaking in. Now I wouldnt run out and shoot someone robbing another house, but I would get my gun and protect my family in case they turn their attention to me. I would have no sympathy for the criminals if I was this man's neighbor.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
That shows the kind of person you are, then - someone who puts more worth in material possessions than a person's life.

You may well call him a hero, but it was not his business to take the law into his own hands and deal out a punishment completely unfit for the crime.

"I was fearing for my own life." crylaugh The man had a 12 guage SHOTGUN and the robbers were walking away with their arms full of shit.

He shot them in the back. The BACK.

Justice.

Originally posted by KidRock
Justice.

In what sense?

They did something "bad" and got "punished"? If we're being that retarded, yes.

They stole from someone else, never physically hurt anybody and never threatened hi. In retaliation, he shot and killed them with a shotgun.

That's not justice.

-AC

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Read this article about a shooting here in Houston....

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/5866865.html

Well? Justified shooting, or Vigilantism?

Justifiable homocide. In TX and LA its perfectly legal to kill tresspassers. In MO its legal to kill a burglar but only if they're in your house. My father-in-law is from St. Louis; he was jokingly told by his dad growing up that if you kill a tresspasser, just be sure to drag him into the house.

Not to mention that they were shot in the back. Cold blood, anyone? What I cannot believe is that the shooter got off and is now considered a hero by many.

Justice is to be handed out by the police and our court systems, NOT by white trash with an itchy trigger finger.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Justifiable homocide. In TX and LA its perfectly legal to kill tresspassers. In MO its legal to kill a burglar but only if they're in your house. My father-in-law is from St. Louis; he was jokingly told by his dad growing up that if you kill a tresspasser, just be sure to drag him into the house.

You see people here with "tresspassers will be shot on sight" signs in their yard.

Originally posted by @st
You see people here with "tresspassers will be shot on sight" signs in their yard.