Murder or Self Defense?

Ignorance of the law is not an excuse. They either didn't know that that it was legal in TX, or acted anyways. Either way, they paid for it.

And with this case, I think racism had more to do with it then getting jacked.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
That shows the kind of person you are, then - someone who puts more worth in material possessions than a person's life.

You may well call him a hero, but it was not his business to take the law into his own hands and deal out a punishment completely unfit for the crime.

^ This kid gets banned like no one I've ever seen....

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
^ This kid gets banned like no one I've ever seen....

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Doesn't change the fact that he is right on the money.

Actually he isn't because he acted within the law. His personal opinion doesn't trump a law.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen

You may well call him a hero, but it was not his business to take the law into his own hands and deal out a punishment completely unfit for the crime.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Actually he isn't because he acted within the law. His personal opinion doesn't trump a law.

I call it a loophole that was taken advantage of. Sure, according to the law it was justified, but that doesn't make it right.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Laws are changed every day, I believe this is one that needs to be changed.

I call it a loophole that was taken advantage of. Sure, according to the law it was justified, but that doesn't make it right.

So are you writing to your congressman, or are you just sitting there complaining?

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
So are you writing to your congressman, or are you just sitting there complaining?

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Ignorance of the law is not an excuse. They either didn't know that that it was legal in TX, or acted anyways. Either way, they paid for it.

And with this case, I think racism had more to do with it then getting jacked.

Of course they didnt know, they were illegal immigrants in the first place.

Originally posted by @st
Of course they didnt know, they were illegal immigrants in the first place.

None really, im just saying they probably didnt understand the law in this situation.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And now we get to it......what difference does that make?

None, because they aren't exempt from local laws.

Originally posted by @st
None really, im just saying they probably didnt understand the law in this situation.

Originally posted by @st
None really, im just saying they probably didnt understand the law in this situation.

Even if they did, I don't think that would've stopped them.

The guy says "I'm going out there to kill them" and ignores the 911 operator's demands, that clearly shows that his intent was to kill. It wasn't like they broke into his house; he had no idea if they were armed and he just shot out of fear. Dude loaded up, went outside, saw they weren't armed and fired.

I also highly doubt one of them charged him, but taking his word on it, I can see why he shot that one. The other guy though? Where's the justification in shooting a thief running away?

Dude murdered two guys, in the very least, it was manslaughter. Hero he is not.

Originally posted by chillybanana
Still, ignorance isn't an excuse.

Im not making an excuse, im was just pointing it out since their "awareness" was questioned.

Originally posted by Robtard
Hero he is not.

*Yoda voice*

Example-setter, he is.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
*Yoda voice*

Example-setter, he is.

What example? That you can murder one (or two) people and get away with it if you happen to live in a certain state(s)?

Originally posted by Robtard
What example? That you can murder one (or two) people and get away with it if you happen to live in a certain state(s)?

Its technically not murder. And yeah, that's it. Don't **** around in a place where you know that will happen. I have no sympathy for some one who gets hung in Thailand for drug-running. They should've known.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Its technically not murder. And yeah, that's it. Don't **** around in a place where you know that will happen. I have no sympathy for some one who gets hung in Thailand for drug-running. They should've known.

This first guy he killed, sure, that can be seen self-defense going on the premise that the thief charged and therefore threatened him. I personnally doubt it, but sure.

The second guy was shot in the back while running away, he never threatened the man or had a weapon, that is murder, in the very least manslaughter.

The difference though, that law in Thailand is set in place, getting executed on a lawn for stealing household goods in America (even TX) isn't. See?