You apparently don't even know what trolling is. 🙂
But your faulty claims that humans can't track flies and that you can't train reflexes is pretty poor...
Hell, getting better at video games that require better reflexes must be impossible. being able to hit better with a bat in baseball, also impossible.
You can improve at things that require reflexes... But I guess that doesn't mean you get better reflexes if you're able to react better.
And you really shouldn't think that your inabilities are the norm.
Originally posted by Mindset
You can train to have better reaction time/reflexes.You think professional fighters and professional athletes don't train to increase their reflex speed?
People who just play sports occasional can improve their reflexes and coordination.
Really? So with training, Arturo Gatti can become Floyd Mayweather Jr. or Willie Pep?
No way. There are some fighters who have twitch like responses, and those who WISH they did.
Ricky Hatton does not. Miguel Cotto does not. Oscar De La Hoya does not.
Floyd Mayweather, Jr. does. You will NEVER see a fighter who gets hit all of the time develop into a fighter who easily slips punches.
Michael Strahan was known for his super quick first step. Soooo...how come most defensive ends don't have it now...through training?
Disagree sir.
Originally posted by Never
Really? So with training, Arturo Gatti can become Floyd Mayweather Jr. or Willie Pep?No way. There are some fighters who have twitch like responses, and those who WISH they did.
Ricky Hatton does not. Miguel Cotto does not. Oscar De La Hoya does not.
Floyd Mayweather, Jr. does. You will NEVER see a fighter who gets hit all of the time develop into a fighter who easily slips punches.
Michael Strahan was known for his super quick first step. Soooo...how come most defensive ends don't have it now...through training?
Disagree sir.
You seem to like to take things to the extreme.
If I used your example than I could say you can not increase your intelligence through studying because you will never be as smart as Albert Einstein. 😬
Just because your level of reflexes isn't as good as someone else's doesn't mean you can't increase your reflexes through practice...
Originally posted by NeverI have no idea who those are. 🙂 Nor do I care. haw-som
Really? So with training, Arturo Gatti can become Floyd Mayweather Jr. or Willie Pep?
Originally posted by NeverOh.. if you want to talk about fast twitch and slow twitch muscle fibre...
No way. There are some fighters who have twitch like responses, and those who WISH they did.[b/]
Originally posted by NeverI don't care if you disagree. that's like disagreeing that the sky is blue... Otherwise people can't learn to juggle, they can't gain in skill as fighters, advancing in belt color in the like... people are either born being masters, or they aren't.
[B]Ricky Hatton does not. Miguel Cotto does not. Oscar De La Hoya does not.Floyd Mayweather, Jr. does. You will NEVER see a fighter who gets hit all of the time develop into a fighter who easily slips punches.
Michael Strahan was known for his super quick first step. Soooo...how come most defensive ends don't have it now...through training?
Disagree sir.
You can name drop a bunch of people I care nothing about all you want. Those specific people have no barring on the fact taht people can improve at things that require reflexes, like video games, baseball, martial arts.
Disagree with people being able to improve? Well... durlaugh That's why I laugh.
Originally posted by Creshosk
You apparently don't even know what trolling is. 🙂But your faulty claims that humans can't track flies and that you can't train reflexes is pretty poor...
Hell, getting better at video games that require better reflexes must be impossible. being able to hit better with a bat in baseball, also impossible.
You can improve at things that require reflexes... But I guess that doesn't mean you get better reflexes if you're able to react better.
And you really shouldn't think that your inabilities are the norm.
You apparently don't know subject-verb agreement is 🙂
"Faulty claimS ARE poor," not "IS" poor.
Regarding video games, ever notice that SOME people are just GOOD and/or better than OTHERS? So if you can train reflexes, why aren't ALL people EQUALLY skilled? Catlord was ALWAYS a bit better than others in Tekken 3. So was Ben Cureton. Ever play Unreal Tournament I, II, III? With the laser gun? Notice SOME people are constantly going GODLIKE and WICKED SICK while others always have 2 frags and 30 deaths (those who don't use Elfbot, of course)?
And you really shouldn't think that your shoddy logic is...logical. Which is it? React better or reflexes?
Originally posted by NeverI work in a video arcade. 🙂
You apparently don't know subject-verb agreement is 🙂"Faulty claimS ARE poor," not "IS" poor.
Regarding video games, ever notice that SOME people are just GOOD and/or better than OTHERS?
Do i Notice people improving, getting better at the game their reflexes improving.
I Sure do. haw-som
Originally posted by NeverBecause in order to train your reflexes you have to train.
So if you can train reflexes, why aren't ALL people EQUALLY skilled?
People do all start off equally skilled at pretty much everything...
Babies.
But I guess those really good fighters had full reflex coordination from the time they were babies. Could walk and talk and the whole bit. Cause you're either born with oodles of reflexes or you're not.
Originally posted by NeverYou think they started off that way? Yeah, I can do running headshots with the sniper rifle... I improved my reflexes... I got better at the game... I practiced...
Catlord was ALWAYS a bit better than others in Tekken 3. So was Ben Cureton. Ever play Unreal Tournament I, II, III? With the laser gun? Notice SOME people are constantly going GODLIKE and WICKED SICK while others always have 2 frags and 30 deaths (those who don't use Elfbot, of course)?
Originally posted by Never
And you really shouldn't think that your shoddy logic is...logical. Which is it? React better or reflexes?
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/reflexes
Main Entry: 1re·flex
Pronunciation: \ˈrç-ˌfleks\
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin reflexus, past participle of reflectere to reflect
Date: 1508
1 aarchaic : reflected heat, light, or color b: a mirrored image c: a copy exact in essential or peculiar features
2 a: an automatic and often inborn response to a stimulus that involves a nerve impulse passing inward from a receptor to a nerve center and thence outward to an effector (as a muscle or gland) without reaching the level of consciousness — compare habit 7 b: the process that culminates in a reflex and comprises reception, transmission, and reaction —called also reflex action cplural : the power of acting or responding with adequate speed d: a way of thinking or behaving
3: a linguistic element (as a word or sound) or system (as writing) that is derived from a prior and especially an older element or system <boat is the reflex of Old English bât>
Originally posted by Mindset
You seem to like to take things to the extreme.If I used your example than I could say you can not increase your intelligence through studying because you will never be as smart as Albert Einstein. 😬
Just because your level of reflexes isn't as good as someone else's doesn't mean you can't increase your reflexes through practice...
Using extreme examples to illustrate one's point is generally one of the most effective means of countering intransigence.
And your analogy is incredibly faulty. I simply asked *if* individuals could increase their reflexes then why don't we see far more exceptionally skilled athletes/boxers. How is that "extreme?"
A reflex is an INVOLUNTARY response to a stimulus. Can you train yourself to sneeze faster? Can you train your knee to jerk faster? Can you train yourself to hiccup faster?
NO, NO, NO.
"In biology, an automatic and inborn response to a stimulus that involves a nerve impulse passing from a sensory nerve cell to a muscle or gland without reaching the level of consciousness."
Originally posted by NeverHeh.. Strawmanning.
Using extreme examples to illustrate one's point is generally one of the most effective means of countering intransigence.
Originally posted by NeverIf people CAN'T improve their reflexes why aren't we all still clumsy as babies?
And your analogy is incredibly faulty. I simply asked *if* individuals could increase their reflexes then why don't we see far more exceptionally skilled athletes/boxers. How is that "extreme?"
Originally posted by NeverThat's ONE definition. 🙂
A reflex is an INVOLUNTARY response to a stimulus. Can you train yourself to sneeze faster? Can you train your knee to jerk faster? Can you train yourself to hiccup faster?NO, NO, NO.
Originally posted by NeverHmm... I see your out of context medical dictionary entry and raise you pavlov's dog.
"In biology, an automatic and inborn response to a stimulus that involves a nerve impulse passing from a sensory nerve cell to a muscle or gland without reaching the level of consciousness."
🙂
Haha! Somebodies confusinf "Reflex" and "reflexes"
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=66385&dict=CALD
Definition
reflex Show phonetics
noun [C]
an uncontrollable physical reaction to something:
I'm sorry I punched him, it was a reflex action/response.
reflexes Show phonetics
plural noun
the ability to react quickly:
Fighter pilots need good/fast reflexes.
Originally posted by Creshosk
I work in a video arcade. 🙂Do i Notice people improving, getting better at the game their reflexes improving.
Congrats. I LIVED in one. That's why I had bar none the best Nina Williams in Maryland, DC and Virginia.
I Sure do. haw-som
Because that's what you're doing?
Because in order to train your reflexes you have to train.People do all start off equally skilled at pretty much everything...
Babies.
Wrong. People are NOT born equally skilled. So the reason that Michael Jordan is better than YOU in basketball is because he PRACTICED more? NO!
But I guess those really good fighters had full reflex coordination from the time they were babies. Could walk and talk and the whole bit. Cause you're either born with oodles of reflexes or you're not.
Talking and walking are not reflexes.
When I said it's congenital I mean that it will MANIFEST itself in a superior manner later. If what you're saying is correct, then EVERYONE can, with practice, have the same reflexes. That's simply not true.
You think they started off that way? Yeah, I can do running headshots with the sniper rifle... I improved my reflexes... I got better at the game... I practiced...
The running headshot is exactly what I'm talking about. I practiced too. I was extremely good in Unreal Tournament. And I always saw a lot of the same players. So why was I always better than a lot of the other players who "practiced" as much as I did?
IF WE COULD TRAIN REFLEXES WE COULD ALL BE EQUALLY SKILLED WITH THE SAME AMOUNT OF PRACTICE. But you ALWAYS see some people who are just WAY better than others.
Explain that please.
Haha.. sham distinction.
Not personally trying to differentiate. You sounded as if you contradicted yourself here:
"You can improve at things that require reflexes... But I guess that doesn't mean you get better reflexes if you're able to react better."
Simply was asking for clarification. No sarcasm there.
Originally posted by Never
Using extreme examples to illustrate one's point is generally one of the most effective means of countering intransigence.And your analogy is incredibly faulty. I simply asked *if* individuals could increase their reflexes then why don't we see far more exceptionally skilled athletes/boxers. How is that "extreme?"
A reflex is an INVOLUNTARY response to a stimulus. Can you train yourself to sneeze faster? Can you train your knee to jerk faster? Can you train yourself to hiccup faster?
NO, NO, NO.
"In biology, an automatic and inborn response to a stimulus that involves a nerve impulse passing from a sensory nerve cell to a muscle or gland without reaching the level of consciousness."
😐
saying a person can't train themselves to have better reflexes is ridiculous. the fitter a person becomes, the better they can react to certain things around them...
hell, why train at anything at all if it won't improve your reflexes...
Originally posted by NeverPssh.. You were born with that skill, you didn't practice because you can't improve your reflexes remember?
Congrats. I LIVED in one. That's why I had bar none the best Nina Williams in Maryland, DC and Virginia.
Originally posted by NeverWatching people play a game and lose, and then play it again and get further, and then play it again and get even further?
Because that's what you're doing?
Yep that's what I'm doing.. even got a game called fighting mania. 😉
Originally posted by NeverOh.. so you have super babies somewhere?
Wrong. People are NOT born equally skilled.
Cause I'm pretty sure people are born as babys with little to no eye-hand-coordination.
Originally posted by Never😆
So the reason that Michael Jordan is better than YOU in basketball is because he PRACTICED more? NO!
I'm pretty damned sure it is, cause I don't play basketball.
Originally posted by Never
Talking and walking are not reflexes.
reflexes Show phonetics
plural noun
the ability to react quickly:
Fighter pilots need good/fast reflexes.
Originally posted by NeverLMAO... 🙄
When I said it's congenital I mean that it will MANIFEST itself in a superior manner later. If what you're saying is correct, then EVERYONE can, with practice, have the same reflexes. That's simply not true.
Originally posted by NeverBecause you were better at learning... Duh
The running headshot is exactly what I'm talking about. I practiced too. I was extremely good in Unreal Tournament. And I always saw a lot of the same players. So why was I always better than a lot of the other players who "practiced" as much as I did?
Practice doen't make perfect, if you practice something wrong, you will only know how to be wrong. Perfect practice makes perfect. Bevcause only practicing something the right way will allow you to perform something the right way better
Originally posted by NeverBarring things like the ability to learn from said practice...
IF WE COULD TRAIN REFLEXES WE COULD ALL BE EQUALLY SKILLED WITH THE SAME AMOUNT OF PRACTICE.
Originally posted by NeverWhich means you can't train your ability to react quickly at all. 🙄
But you ALWAYS see some people who are just WAY better than others.
Originally posted by Neversee above.
Explain that please.
Originally posted by NeverOh there's plenty of sarcasm in my posts. 🙂
Not personally trying to differentiate. You sounded as if you contradicted yourself here:"You can improve at things that require reflexes... But I guess that doesn't mean you get better reflexes if you're able to react better."
Simply was asking for clarification. No sarcasm there.
What's funny is for all his sports knowledge he's obviously just a spectator at sports:
http://sportsmedicine.about.com/od/anatomyandphysiology/a/MuscleFiberType.htm
So you can develop different muscle types?
Dude...that's not a Straw Man Fallacy. LoL.
Fine, don't have to believe me.
http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~alatus/2801/StrawMan.html
Two, you're talking about balance - not reflexes.
Three, Pavlov's Dog? LoL. That's a reaction, which is nigh identical to a reflex.
There are reflex reactions also.
Both are responses to a stimulus.
Check any definition.
Reflex: Physiology. Being an involuntary action or response, such as a sneeze, blink, or hiccup.
http://www.answers.com/topic/reflex?cat=health
Reaction: A response to a stimulus.
http://www.answers.com/reaction
You're splitting hairs.
Originally posted by Raoul
😐saying a person can't train themselves to have better reflexes is ridiculous. the fitter a person becomes, the better they can react to certain things around them...
hell, why train at anything at all if it won't improve your reflexes...
Do explain how one can train to improve their skill at an INVOLUNTARY response.
Originally posted by NeverBalance comes in part form being able to react quickly if you over balance...
Dude...that's not a Straw Man Fallacy. LoL.Fine, don't have to believe me.
http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~alatus/2801/StrawMan.html
Two, you're talking about balance - not reflexes.
You're saying that babys have the natural reflexes they'll have as adults? You punch at one and they're beable to react the way they will as adults?
Originally posted by Sado22Nope. I'm not. You are.
Three, Pavlov's Dog? LoL. That's a reaction, which is nigh identical to a reflex.There are reflex reactions also.
Both are responses to a stimulus.
Check any definition.
Reflex: Physiology. Being an involuntary action or response, such as a sneeze, blink, or hiccup.
http://www.answers.com/topic/reflex?cat=health
Reaction: A response to a stimulus.
http://www.answers.com/reaction
You're splitting hairs.
Check ANY definition?
Gee that cambridge dictionary said that reflexes are the ability to react quickly...
Originally posted by NeverYou're talking about reflex.
Do explain how one can train to improve their skill at an INVOLUNTARY response.
I know its a hard concept to master by you can get it if you trry hard enough...
Oh wait.. I see what you mean about not being able to improve things... guess you just weren't born with it.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Pssh.. You were born with that skill, you didn't practice because you can't improve your reflexes remember?
This is hilarious. I wasn't practicing to improve my reflexes.
Watching people play a game and lose, and then play it again and get further, and then play it again and get even further?
Has nothing to do with reflexes.
Yep that's what I'm doing.. even got a game called fighting mania. 😉
You're not improving your reflexes.
Oh.. so you have super babies somewhere?Cause I'm pretty sure people are born as babys with little to no eye-hand-coordination.
Of course they don't have ANY hand to eye coordination. But that's not a reflex.
😆I'm pretty damned sure it is, cause I don't play basketball.
Mmm. So nobody in the entire NBA during his prime practiced as much as he did? Wronnnnnng.
reflexes Show phonetics
plural noun
the ability to react quickly:
Fighter pilots need good/fast reflexes.LMAO... 🙄
You do realize you're trying to tell me that I'm using the plural form of a singular noun incorrectly...and that's it. LMAO. I'm not using it incorrectly. Fighter pilots DO need good reflexes. That's. Why. NOT EVERYONE CAN BE A FIGHTER PILOT, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T TRAIN THAT.
Because you were better at learning... Duh
Omg. LoL. Okay.
Practice doen't make perfect, if you practice something wrong, you will only know how to be wrong. Perfect practice makes perfect. Bevcause only practicing something the right way will allow you to perform something the right way betterBarring things like the ability to learn from said practice...
Which means you can't train your ability to react quickly at all. 🙄
Uh...what?
Originally posted by Creshosk Balance comes in part form being able to react quickly if you over balance...You're saying that babys have the natural reflexes they'll have as adults? You punch at one and they're beable to react the way they will as adults?
Uh, balance and reflex are not synonymous.
Check ANY definition?Gee that cambridge dictionary said that reflexes are the ability to react quickly...
I SWEAR I just typed this awhile ago in the SAME spot that you quoted:
"LoL. That's a reaction, which is nigh identical to a reflex."