Originally posted by Mandos
All I was saying is that you couldn't disect something that has no rules. Satanist is based on hate and cruelty.... I don't get why what I said didn't match that...
Well, before you said there are always rules and that without rules he would have been dead, etc. Then you said that. Is funny.
Me and vamp had a discussion about it in PM. So I talked partly to the ones who were posting in the forum, and partly directly to vampbenji who will understand what I am trying to say to him. Might have confused some, I agree it wasn't clear, but I still do not take the oh dear comment, it is denigrant. I'm not taking myself too high that what I really am, but I,m positive he takes me for lower.
Originally posted by Bardock42
I think he was commenting at your post being extremely odd and unrelated to what you, inimalist or anyone said.
Yep, pretty much.
Originally posted by Mandos
Me and vamp had a discussion about it in PM. So I talked partly to the ones who were posting in the forum, and partly directly to vampbenji who will understand what I am trying to say to him. Might have confused some, I agree it wasn't clear, but I still do not take the oh dear comment, it is denigrant. I'm not taking myself too high that what I really am, but I,m positive he takes me for lower.
You're positive I'm taking you for "lower"? I'm really not sure what you're rambling on about.
Originally posted by Mandos
Me and vamp had a discussion about it in PM. So I talked partly to the ones who were posting in the forum, and partly directly to vampbenji who will understand what I am trying to say to him. Might have confused some, I agree it wasn't clear, but I still do not take the oh dear comment, it is denigrant. I'm not taking myself too high that what I really am, but I,m positive he takes me for lower.
It's just odd, no worries.
What I would like to put more focus on though is what inimalist said.
If Vampy likes Satan for his lack of rules. and hates God for his, but he also has seen and participated in sacrifices and torture, then Satan doesn't really have no rules, defeating his initial purpose, rendering his whole point obsolete.
Of course since it is all just the fantasy of a very sad, very lonely teenage boy, who tries to rebel, yet wants to belong it is, of course, ridiculous altogether, that point, in specific, though, is hilarious.
Originally posted by Mandos
It is true, but who says sacrifices are rules? Maybe there're just actions to show the rejection of God's rule, actions that could be performed in any such a way.I'm with you on the teenage rebel thing.
Because they have a point. If they show rejection of God it is someone's rules that they show rejection of God.
Not entirely. Is it not possible for someone to reject God without performing acts? I have rejected the idea of God a good part of my life without doing anything atroucious. Why couldn't it be the same for worshippers of Satan. I beleive there are many more than we think there is in this world, but only a minority performs such monstrous acts. They aren't following Satan's rule, only showing that they are extremists.
Like the Talibans.
Originally posted by Mandos
Not entirely. Is it not possible for someone to reject God without performing acts? I have rejected the idea of God a good part of my life without doing anything atroucious. Why couldn't it be the same for worshippers of Satan. I beleive there are many more than we think there is in this world, but only a minority performs such monstrous acts. They aren't following Satan's rule, only showing that they are extremists.
Like the Talibans.
Well, but they believe that there is a rule that states that this extremist act has a point and they go by it. Whose rule that is, might be unclear, but at least they worship Satan so it makes sense.
And that's exactly my point, if Satan doesn't have any rules, why do you do that stuff in order to achieve something? If you do it for your own fun, fair enough. But if it is rituals, then, by definition, they follow some rule. And he said it was rituals.
The only rule ever given by Satan was not in words, and can be retreive in the Bible.
The moment he tempted Eve to bite the apple, he became the ruler of this earth. For he directly confronted God, passing one message: Humans are better off without you.
And that is the only rule, which is technically not a rule. That the humans can live without god. For the more God is powerful on earth, the less Satan becomes.
The criminal acts that Benji has told us, sacrificing, torturing, killing, has been added by humans worshippers of Satan, but not Satan himself. Satan was a deceiver, but he never directly killed anyone. This is where we must draw the line into Satanism. Do you follow Satan (which is not that bad technically, only following the idea that god does not exist) or goddamned criminals that need to be put behind bars.
Originally posted by Mandos
The only rule ever given by Satan was not in words, and can be retreive in the Bible.The moment he tempted Eve to bite the apple, he became the ruler of this earth. For he directly confronted God, passing one message: Humans are better off without you.
And that is the only rule, which is technically not a rule. That the humans can live without god. For the more God is powerful on earth, the less Satan becomes.
The criminal acts that Benji has told us, sacrificing, torturing, killing, has been added by humans worshippers of Satan, but not Satan himself. Satan was a deceiver, but he never directly killed anyone. This is where we must draw the line into Satanism. Do you follow Satan (which is not that bad technically, only following the idea that god does not exist) or goddamned criminals that need to be put behind bars.
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