Bob Lee Swagger versus Batman

Started by Rogue Jedi30 pages

Originally posted by Bardock42
R, you have, and whether you know it is relevant, because here it is:

Which is the important part I referred to.

Yeah, "pursue". Not "get out holding two road flares screaming SHOOT ME IN THE ASS!!"

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Yeah, "pursue". Not "get out holding two road flares screaming SHOOT ME IN THE ASS!!"
That's an exaggeration.

You did state though that Batman would have to get out of the car.

Either way, quite contrary to what shiv said, you did not cover my argument in the least.

Originally posted by Bardock42
That's an exaggeration.

You did state though that Batman would have to get out of the car.

Either way, quite contrary to what shiv said, you did not cover my argument in the least.

This?

Not a fact. Swagger isn't shown to hit anyone that is deliberately using the surrounding area and his skills to make it hard or even impossible to hit. Swagger can hit stationary object and moving object which he can predict, not Batman.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
This?

Not a fact. Swagger isn't shown to hit anyone that is deliberately using the surrounding area and his skills to make it hard or even impossible to hit. Swagger can hit stationary object and moving object which he can predict, not Batman.

Yeah.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah.
Well, my argument there is that Swaggers rifle can shoot through trees and most of the cover Batman would use, and that hitting a moving target is nothing to him. Granted Batman moves a helluva lot faster than an ordinary man.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Well, my argument there is that Swaggers rifle can shoot through trees and most of the cover Batman would use, and that hitting a moving target is nothing to him. Granted Batman moves a helluva lot faster than an ordinary man.
Also a hell of a lot more unpredictable and stealthier.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Also a hell of a lot more unpredictable and stealthier.
Agreed, it might throw Swagger a bit, perhaps alot, but I feel he would adjust to it and find his target.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Agreed, it might throw Swagger a bit, perhaps alot, but I feel he would adjust to it and find his target.

I wouldn't totally count it out. But the fact that even in this least positive scenario for Batman he'd still have a mighty fine shot, must say something.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I wouldn't totally count it out. But the fact that even in this least positive scenario for Batman he'd still have a mighty fine shot, must say something.
Not to mention that the closer Batman gets, the easier the shot becomes.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Not to mention that the closer Batman gets, the easier the shot becomes.

Well, not necessarily, sure, if he exits the vehicle from a mile away, but if he is already 100 yards away when he exits it, Swagger might have problems.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, not necessarily, sure, if he exits the vehicle from a mile away, but if he is already 100 yards away when he exits it, Swagger might have problems.
No question there, but in that case, we know what Swagger can do with an assault rifle.

We are debating the movie version of Swagger combined with the non Hollywood version

see RJ's first post.

Batman sneaking up in dense foliage will get shot clean through the eyes . Non Movie Swagger hearing is equally exceptional as his sight. In addittion non Movie Swagger can swivel and aim without disturbing air pressure providing no tell tale flutter of leaves and animal life for his target.

Flash bangs and gas from the utility belt are the equivalent of Batman carrying a Flashing "Shoot ME!" neon sign

Originally posted by shiv
We are debating the movie version of Swagger combined with the non Hollywood version

see RJ's first post.

Batman sneaking up in dense foliage will get shot clean through the eyes . Non Movie Swagger hearing is equally exceptional as his sight. In addittion non Movie Swagger can swivel and aim without disturbing air pressure providing no tell tale flutter of leaves and animal life for his target.

Flash bangs and gas from the utility belt are the equivalent of Batman carrying a Flashing "Shoot ME!" neon sign

We agreed a few pages back movie versions only. Seems novel Swagger was too much.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
We agreed a few pages back movie versions only. Seems novel Swagger was too much.

Na, he wasn't, he did what? Plug a bullet wound with a wraper and get a few extra kills?

Anyhow, if you want to get into the written works aspect, comic/novel Batman would rape 50 Swaggers of any variety.

Originally posted by shiv
We are debating the movie version of Swagger combined with the non Hollywood version

see RJ's first post.

Batman sneaking up in dense foliage will get shot clean through the eyes . Non Movie Swagger hearing is equally exceptional as his sight. In addittion non Movie Swagger can swivel and aim without disturbing air pressure providing no tell tale flutter of leaves and animal life for his target.

Flash bangs and gas from the utility belt are the equivalent of Batman carrying a Flashing "Shoot ME!" neon sign

Assuming Batman crawls through the forest I guess you are right. Obviously he wouldn't.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Assuming Batman crawls through the forest I guess you are right. Obviously he wouldn't.
Never seen Batman crawl before. 😛

Oh deary, the madness continues. Believe me, novels Swagger isn't 'too much' for movies Batman. Not since we're talking about ALL Batmen in all Batman movies.

Yet if Swagger's novels are allowed, why can't Batman's? That seems fair, oh yeah, that's right, becuase including Batman's novels mean Swagger gets raped by the opposite side of a mop. (If I could laugh out loud, it'd be placed right here, but I don't do that stupid shit)

No way Swagger can take out Batman.

Written Swagger w/prep > David Cain & written Batman.

Originally posted by shiv
Written Swagger w/prep > David Cain & written Batman.

Ahaha, oh my no. It's a funny thought though.

Originally posted by shiv

Flash bangs and gas from the utility belt are the equivalent of Batman carrying a Flashing "Shoot ME!" neon sign

Uh huh, you do know that flashbangs are meant to be thrown right? Like you don't set one off right in front of you. You knew that right? Right?

And gas... hmm, I think you mean smoke, which is actually used as a smoke screen as a counter-sniper measure. You knew that right?

I'm sure you're going to try and convince us that you knew, and probably go off on a tangent, but actually I'm pretty sure you didn't know jack.