Bob Lee Swagger versus Batman

Originally posted by Placidity
Uh huh, you do know that flashbangs are meant to be thrown right? Like you don't set one off right in front of you. You knew that right? Right?

And gas... hmm, I think you mean smoke, which is actually used as a smoke screen as a counter-sniper measure. You knew that right?

I'm sure you're going to try and convince us that you knew, and probably go off on a tangent, but actually I'm pretty sure you didn't know jack.

the sound Batman makes when he arms a flash bang/gas/smoke grenade and ripple in the air when he swings his arm combined with the swoosh of the projectile in the air before it detonates Are sufficient to pinpoint him. and nail him centre-face as he flits through teh bushes.

Originally posted by shiv
the sound Batman makes when he arms a flash bang/gas/smoke grenade and ripple in the air when he swings his arm combined with the swoosh of the projectile in the air before it detonates Are sufficient to pinpoint him. and nail him centre-face as he flits through teh bushes.

I'm pretty sure you meant using a flashbang or smoke would give Bats away due to the attention it demands from its effects, NOT the movement of the grenade, which in a second or two would provide a masking effect for Batman anyway.

If Swagger is far away enough to use a sniper, he won't be hearing something like Batman "arming" (lol?) a grenade. please don't be silly.

Plus the fact that for Swagger to be able to back track the movement of the grenade and then quickly shoot Batman before the flash or smoke gives Batman a chance to hide/escape/disappear, he would first have to have his sight set on that area - which would just be due to chance if he didn't already know where Batman was.

In addition, Batman could throw or even roll the grenade (thus being undetected) from behind cover (The setting is in a forest). When there is a sufficient smoke screen, he can do whatever the hell he wants.

Also, ripples in air due to movement cannot be percieved by the human eye, this isn't the Matrix.

BUT, all this is talk is futile, Batman is in his Batmobile 😎

Wait, are you mocking RJ by pretending to be a clown. I'm genuinely not sure now.

Originally posted by Placidity

Wait, are you mocking RJ by pretending to be a clown. I'm genuinely not sure now.

Must be.

Originally posted by Placidity
I'm pretty sure you meant using a flashbang or smoke would give Bats away due to the attention it demands from its effects, NOT the movement of the grenade, which in a second or two would provide a masking effect for Batman anyway.

If Swagger is far away enough to use a sniper, he won't be hearing something like Batman "arming" (lol?) a grenade. please don't be silly.

Plus the fact that for Swagger to be able to back track the movement of the grenade and then quickly shoot Batman before the flash or smoke gives Batman a chance to hide/escape/disappear, he would first have to have his sight set on that area - which would just be due to chance if he didn't already know where Batman was.

In addition, Batman could throw or even roll the grenade (thus being undetected) from behind cover (The setting is in a forest). When there is a sufficient smoke screen, he can do whatever the hell he wants.

Also, ripples in air due to movement cannot be percieved by the human eye, this isn't the Matrix.

BUT, all this is talk is futile, Batman is in his Batmobile 😎

Wait, are you mocking RJ by pretending to be a clown. I'm genuinely not sure now.

Swagger can register the motion preceding the throw of a small projectile
AND exactly like a Pro Tennis player pinpoint where the object originated from the sound it makes on impact with a surface [ the majority of pro players scream/shout when they serve. The rules of Tennis allow this, however if one of the player goes before the umpire the rules call for both players to zip it.]

the Batmobile can fire bullets, small missles, and grappling hooks, shitting out a few smoke bombs and flash grenades is not possible?

Swagger starts the match at the top of the hill.

The Idiots guide to Hunting says something about the life span of sitting ducks.

We can safely rule out the notion of Swagger providing a stationary target for the rampaging Batmobile

Originally posted by Scythe
Oh deary, the madness continues. Believe me, novels Swagger isn't 'too much' for movies Batman. Not since we're talking about ALL Batmen in all Batman movies.

Yet if Swagger's novels are allowed, why can't Batman's? That seems fair, oh yeah, that's right, becuase including Batman's novels mean Swagger gets raped by the opposite side of a mop. (If I could laugh out loud, it'd be placed right here, but I don't do that stupid shit)

No way Swagger can take out Batman.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I meant too much info, sorry, I should have specified.

It's quite alright.

Originally posted by shiv
Swagger can register the motion preceding the throw of a small projectile
AND exactly like a Pro Tennis player pinpoint where the object originated from the sound it makes on impact with a surface [ the majority of pro players scream/shout when they serve. The rules of Tennis allow this, however if one of the player goes before the umpire the rules call for both players to zip it.]

And that would help, how?

Okay, here's the thing. This is where Scythe brings the cake home and blows the doors down.

RJ stated only Batman movies correct? So it's only fair to use Batman movies that had theatrical releases. Not to mention Swagger is facing off against every live action Batman ever presented, but there's been one that's forgotten, Kevin Conroy's Batman. In 1993 there was the theatrical release of Batman: Mask of the Phantasm. Here's the movie poster for it.

Great movie, but my point being is that the Batman being shown throughout the animated series, the series which probably might be the best comic cartoon ever made, can do this! Animated Batman is a minor rehash if that of comics Batman, which alone should have the knowledge needed to out-perform Swagger in any situation. Yeah, done deal.

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Originally posted by Scythe
Okay, here's the thing. This is where Scythe brings the cake home and blows the doors down.

RJ stated only Batman movies correct? So it's only fair to use Batman movies that had theatrical releases. Not to mention Swagger is facing off against every live action Batman ever presented, but there's been one that's forgotten, Kevin Conroy's Batman. In 1993 there was the theatrical release of Batman: Mask of the Phantasm. Here's the movie poster for it.

Great movie, but my point being is that the Batman being shown throughout the animated series, the series which probably might be the best comic cartoon ever made, can do this! Animated Batman is a minor rehash if that of comics Batman, which alone should have the knowledge needed to out-perform Swagger in any situation. Yeah, done deal.

But I DID say "Any of the movie versions", so OK.

This thread has become too prone for arguments, so I have been taking it less seriously and was gonna close it, should I leave it open?

I agree, closing it would be dandy. Any Batman movie means Mask of the Phantasm has to be added, which is basically comics Batman, which adds more to the crap all over the place.

Originally posted by Scythe
I agree, closing it would be dandy. Any Batman movie means Mask of the Phantasm has to be added, which is basically comics Batman, which adds more to the crap all over the place.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
silly question, does youtube have any good clips to this movie?

There's plenty, here's a feature on the movie, Mark Hamill has always played animated Joker, and well, he's in the feature.

YouTube video

Looks pretty cool. I'd buy the DVD solely because Mark Hamill is in it.

Mak Hamill did wonders for the Joker, he gave him his personality we all still remember.

Originally posted by Scythe
Mak Hamill did wonders for the Joker, he gave him his personality we all still remember.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Bear with me here, he did some of the TV cartoon episodes too, didnt he?

He did all of the animated series episodes. Only ones he didn't do were the ones in the 70's and Superfriends.

Originally posted by Scythe
He did all of the animated series episodes. Only ones he didn't do were the ones in the 70's and Superfriends.