Bob Lee Swagger versus Batman

Started by Placidity30 pages

(Swagger loses 10/10)

Originally posted by Placidity
"Stealth Mode" - Whatever, point is, Swagger won't see him.

Proof?

Said by someone who doesn't even know what Counter-intel is?

So if Joker/Gordon/Alfred said Batman is an idiot, then he is an idiot?

Are you an idiot? Yes. Indo Story.

You reported RJ for insulting you after you insulted him? Smooth. Very smooth.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
It isnt shown invisible in the movies, is it? It is shown running silent, thats all.

Scene 2, check it out.I already told you that.

The agent who recruits Swagger is a highly trained operative, I think he knows what counter intel is.

And your mother should have swallowed, where does that leave us?

Two wrongs don't make a right, RJ. Calm down.

Any more bashing/insulting of any kind, whatsoever, from anybody, and I'll issue warnings and close the thread.

I'm just surprised you don't see a difference between insult to intelligence (relating to intelligence required in a debate, that RJ doesn't seem to have), and insult to family via sexual slurs.

But whatever, everyone was thinking it, but I guess I'm just taking one for the team by saying it.

Couldn't be happier if this pointless thread did get closed.

I was kinda hopin' it would get closed, not much more can be, or should be said here anymore.

Originally posted by Robtard
Deadshot. He has a "never miss" clause. Anything else you need answered?

Edit: Also Deathstroke. The greatest assassin in the DC universe.

Either of these guys make Swagger look like a guy in bootcamp.

Funny story 'bout Deathstroke. In Detective Comics 711, Batman beats Deathstroke and renders another Assassin imobile with Deathstroke's Sniper Rifle. A shot of which Deathstroke (the best assassin of the DC Universe (much, much better than Swagger)) said that "Not even a proffessional could do it now"...

Yeah, it's in the comics, but I doubt anyone denies Comic Batman would own Swagger's ass sooo ****ing bad.

Originally posted by Placidity
^Um pretty much. I'm just surprised that over 22 pages of discussion I'm the only one that has been arguing that point.
That's cause the Batmobile didn't go "invisible", it was just hard to see. Which could still pose a problem for a sniper, who kinda relies on seeing stuff.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
On another note, you think Batman is going to let the batmobile do all the work? That seems kinda chicken shit, sorta looks like he would be afraid to face Swagger.

Yeah, Batman would do anything to win, wouldn't he?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Heres what I am convinced of:

1. Batman sitting in the Batmobile throughout the battle and letting the Batmobile do all the work, of course Swagger is killed. Hardly fair for any man to face a 5 ton killing machine, is it?

Ok, Batman wins then. Thread closed.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
2. Hand to hand combat, Swagger gets some hits in, but in the end he loses.

True.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
3. If it comes down to Batman approaching on foot, as it should be, Swagger owns him due to his incredible marksmanship. This is how it should be, man against man, not man against a rolling invincible beast.

Why should it be that way? If Batman knows that Swagger is a superb Sniper he would never, ever do that.

Like I said, if the scenario is "Batman strapped to a chair, Swagger holds a gun to his exposed head. Who wins?" it would be Swagger. What have you proven with that? That Batman can die? We all knew that. That Swagger is better? No, not in any way.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
4. That Batman CANNOT dodge bullets, that Swagger will NOT miss if he sees Batman.

Not a fact. Swagger isn't shown to hit anyone that is deliberately using the surrounding area and his skills to make it hard or even impossible to hit. Swagger can hit stationary object and moving object which he can predict, not Batman.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
5. Batman wouldnt level an entire forest to take out one man. If he would do this, why not just sit back in the confines of Wayne manor and call in an air strike?

I don't think he has power over any air forces. But isn't this an all out fight? Or is it a "Batman walks up to Swagger from 1000 yards away and Swagger can take as many shots at him as he wanst, who wins?" Thread? Make up your mind, you clown.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Sure you were. 😉 Could have been taken either way. Perhaps you should be more specific?

No, sorry, you can just take that one way.

Swagger would win.

Hahaha, thats a good joke. Almost had me. Almost.

Originally posted by ~Wålshy~
Swagger would win.

Wish you were funny...

Originally posted by Placidity
I'm just surprised you don't see a difference between insult to intelligence (relating to intelligence required in a debate, that RJ doesn't seem to have), and insult to family via sexual slurs.

But whatever, everyone was thinking it, but I guess I'm just taking one for the team by saying it.

Couldn't be happier if this pointless thread did get closed.

An insult is the same by any other name. Don't do it again.

If you find this thread so pointless, then quit wating your time by posting in here.

I'd like to see this thread closed already, please?

Sorry, sir. Only the thread starter can request that.

Originally posted by Impediment
An insult is the same by any other name. Don't do it again.

If you find this thread so pointless, then quit wating your time by posting in here.

Idiot can, quite certainly, refer to the intelligence as well as the behaviour of a person. It's a synonym of fool, for example.

Originally posted by Impediment
Sorry, sir. Only the thread starter can request that.

True, but, you could deem the thread pointless or close it for other reasons. Like...that it is obviously a spite thread and such.

I do enjoy it though, keep it open!

I really don't get this, RJ, you've clearly set it up in your mind to happen an exact way. Next you'll be saying that Batman couldn't use the batmobile because it has a broken exhaust that needs fixing, so Swagger will obviously win.

What kind of fight is this you're talking about? You seem to be going by some strange moral code for fighting, that apparently only Batman must abide.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Idiot can, quite certainly, refer to the intelligence as well as the behaviour of a person. It's a synonym of fool, for example.

True. However, a$$hole can also be a friendly term. If used correctly.

Originally posted by Bardock42
True, but, you could deem the thread pointless or close it for other reasons. Like...that it is obviously a spite thread and such.

I fail to see so. I see it as people not relenting on their opinions.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I do enjoy it though, keep it open!

I shall.

Re: Bob Lee Swagger versus Batman

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Gunnery Sergeant Bob Lee Swagger from the movie "Shooter", and the novels written by Stephen Hunter:

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YouTube video

Versus Batman, any of the movie versions.

Same storyline as the movie Shooter, except it takes place in Gotham. Bob Lee Swagger is framed for shooting the Ethiopian archbishop, and is on the run trying to clear his name, and the Bat is called upon to bring him to justice.

Swagger escapes Gotham to his home state of Arkansas, and decides to make a stand there. He arms himself with a .50 caliber sniper rifle, H&K G36 assault rifle, as well as two .45 automatics as sidearms. He also has all the standard sniper gear: Ghille suits, claymores, the works.

Swagger positions himself atop a hill with a long twisting road as the only way to it's top as the Bat comes into the view, in the Batmobile, a thousand yards away, determined to bring him to justice.

I know, the Bat is the Bat, and Swagger is just another guy, but do your research on Swagger before rushing to judgement on this matchup.

AWWWWWWWWWWWW man. you gave him teh Automobile.

No wheels = dead Bat.
Smoke pellets and flash bangs won't help Batman.

Originally posted by Bardock42

Not a fact. Swagger isn't shown to hit anyone that is deliberately using the surrounding area and his skills to make it hard or even impossible to hit. Swagger can hit stationary object and moving object which he can predict, not Batman.

RJ's first post covered this.

Originally posted by shiv
RJ's first post covered this.

Do you mean where he said Batman is going to drive up with the Batmobile, then get out, stand there, while Swagger shoots him?

Cause, I don't really think that covered my point at all.

At all.

B, I never said that, and you know it.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
B, I never said that, and you know it.

R, you have, and whether you know it is relevant, because here it is:

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I should probably state that the road only leads so far, that Batman must exit his vehicle and pursue Swagger on foot at a certain point. Also that claymores have been placed at strategic locations throughout the woods, claymores that would shred the Bat if steps into their blast radius.

Which is the important part I referred to.