Originally posted by Metalmanx
Uh...Wonder Woman is actually one of the highest on this 'totem pole'.If anyone is the weak link, it's Hulk. In fact, yea. He is easily the weakest.
Agreed.
Sentry can revive people though, and seeing as he's fast enough to catch bullets before they travel like 1/10 of an inch, as well as hit saturn in a couple of panels, I dares say he's fast enough to keep up with Diana.
Thor and BRB are somewhat equal, only Thor has feats above Bill.
Juggernaut gets BFR'ed whether it's Hulk, Sentry or Thor he takes on.
Originally posted by llagrok
Agreed.Sentry can revive people though, and seeing as he's fast enough to catch bullets before they travel like 1/10 of an inch, as well as hit saturn in a couple of panels, I dares say he's fast enough to keep up with Diana.
Thor and BRB are somewhat equal, only Thor has feats above Bill.
Juggernaut gets BFR'ed whether it's Hulk, Sentry or Thor he takes on.
Wait. Hold on a second. How come Juggernaut gets BFRed like it's cake, but Hulk can't? 🤨 If anything, Hulk is the easiest member to BFR, as Juggernaut is mystical in nature and can return under his own power. People seem to keep forgetting this. Juggernaut, on more than one occasion, has been telekinetically lifted up off the ground and continued to move forward under his own power, despite not having any leverage or foot-holds.
So, in short: Juggernaut >>>> Hulk.
Everyone else on these teams >>>>>> Hulk.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Wait. Hold on a second. How come Juggernaut gets BFRed like it's cake, but Hulk can't? 🤨 If anything, Hulk is the easiest member to BFR, as Juggernaut is mystical in nature and can return under his own power. People seem to keep forgetting this. Juggernaut, on more than one occasion, has been telekinetically lifted up off the ground and continued to move forward under his own power, despite not having any leverage or foot-holds.So, in short: Juggernaut >>>> Hulk.
Everyone else on these teams >>>>>> Hulk.
Naah you underestimating hulk, Juggernaut and hulk can basically take anyone on the field without bfr (I dont think hulk could take thor or brb but he can take the rest).
Wonder woman is a physical character and she would get overwhelmed and crushed by the hulk. I agree, there truly is no way to beat juggernaut especially since he can return to the battlefield thats why Im undecided in this match because thor would have to pull that same trick that he pulled before and rid juggernaut of his power but since juggernaut has been a pest in thors side since his creation I think that juggs is going to attack him 1st.
Originally posted by jks
Oops. I forgot which site I was on when I posted. I forgot to put on my kmc glasses that allows me to see things about WW that the rest of the comic reading world doesnt see.
getting back on topic, Team 1 wins this convincingly.
Hulk cannot be "killed" or any such thing, by anyone on Team 2. and definitely not quickly. Sentry went all out, didn't do any lasting (or even notable) damage whatsoever.
Sentry is capable of creating an energy attack that envelops team 2, whilst he pounds away at WW or mentally screws up Juggernaut.
Hulk can take down BRB physically or at least keep him busy long enough that Thor bfr's Team 2.
Thor may not cause any damage to Juggernaut with a regular attack, but the GodBlast has pushed him back and a really powerful one would definitely hurt Juggernaut. so there's always the possibility of Thor softening up Juggernaut so that Sentry's energies (which are enveloping the battlefield) will cause further damage.
I definitely don't see Juggernaut contributing anything to Team 2, due to his zero range, zero superspeed and extremely limited offensive skills (which amount to flailing his arms about and waiting for someone to connect with one of them). this is a crucial handicap in such, an otherwise even match up.
Originally posted by janus77
count yourself lucky, I can't see past her cleavage... and definitely can't see straight for hours if I dwell on her for any longer than it takes to read a speech bubble.getting back on topic, Team 1 wins this convincingly.
Hulk cannot be "killed" or any such thing, by anyone on Team 2. and definitely not quickly. Sentry went all out, didn't do any lasting (or even notable) damage whatsoever.
Sentry is capable of creating an energy attack that envelops team 2, whilst he pounds away at WW or mentally screws up Juggernaut.
Hulk can take down BRB physically or at least keep him busy long enough that Thor bfr's Team 2.
Thor may not cause any damage to Juggernaut with a regular attack, but the GodBlast has pushed him back and a really powerful one would definitely hurt Juggernaut. so there's always the possibility of Thor softening up Juggernaut so that Sentry's energies (which are enveloping the battlefield) will cause further damage.
I definitely don't see Juggernaut contributing anything to Team 2, due to his zero range, zero superspeed and extremely limited offensive skills (which amount to flailing his arms about and waiting for someone to connect with one of them). this is a crucial handicap in such, an otherwise even match up.
You don't make any sense. Hulk is the weak link here, unless you think that Hulk > Juggernaut for some strange reason. 😬
How is that Sentry's gonna use a psychic attack on Juggs when he's got the impenetrable forcefield? Juggs pretty much doesn't get physically affected unless he consciously lowers his shield. Plus, god-blast did nothing to Jugg but provide him with a bright flash of light. He dusted himself off and continued his rampage/attack as if nothing happened.
In my opinion, Hulk gets tossed into the sun in the first second of the fight. With no way to return, he's out of the fight. Sure, you might argue that Juggernaut will be BFRed, too. Well, you could, but then I'd tell you that he can return under his own power, as he has done before. Hell, if Juggy's already got some momentum going, anyone on team 1 would be hard-pressed to do any such thing to Juggy without some crazy tactics on their part.
In short: No one is physically hurting the Juggernaut here.
I'm still not really saying who wins this because the other four members of these two teams are all extremely well-matched (in my opinion). But I just really wanted to shed some light on the whole Juggy/Hulk thing.
Edit: And such severely gross underestimating of Wonder Woman! 😬
Originally posted by MetalmanxWW Hulk did beat Juggernaut twice. 😬
You don't make any sense. Hulk is the weak link here, unless you think that Hulk > Juggernaut for some strange reason. 😬How is that Sentry's gonna use a psychic attack on Juggs when he's got the impenetrable forcefield? Juggs pretty much doesn't get physically affected unless he consciously lowers his shield. Plus, god-blast did nothing to Jugg but provide him with a bright flash of light. He dusted himself off and continued his rampage/attack as if nothing happened.
In my opinion, Hulk gets tossed into the sun in the first second of the fight. With no way to return, he's out of the fight. Sure, you might argue that Juggernaut will be BFRed, too. Well, you could, but then I'd tell you that he can return under his own power, as he has done before. Hell, if Juggy's already got some momentum going, anyone on team 1 would be hard-pressed to do any such thing to Juggy without some crazy tactics on their part.
In short: No one is physically hurting the Juggernaut here.
I'm still not really saying who wins this because the other four members of these two teams are all extremely well-matched (in my opinion). But I just really wanted to shed some light on the whole Juggy/Hulk thing.
Edit: And such severely gross underestimating of Wonder Woman! 😬
lol ❌.
and no, Juggernaut doesn't "return under his own power", show me a scan of him doing so? 'cos as far as I recall, he needs to beg and plead with Cyttorak to be transported across distances.
Hulk is most certainly >> Juggernaut, btw. Onslaught was physically >>>>> Juggernaut (punching him across a continent!), yet when a much more powerful Onslaught went up against Hulk, Hulk triumphed.
Hulk is too fast and mobile for a quick bfr, Juggernaut is immobile, unskilled and has been bfr'd by Hulk with a mere slap.
maybe unremitting hatred towards a character isn't the best place to start from, when judging how battles would go?