Originally posted by fangirl101It was still a team effort. So if she was hanging with Konvikt it was only due to the circumstances. Had she beat him one on one youd have a point but she didnt.
Back it up. Prove that she is the weak link. from where I'm looking, she was hanging with Konvict on her own once Superman left the battle field.
Physically Sentry is well beyond WW imo. She is more skilled but that doesnt really help her much against Superman either does it?
Originally posted by quanchi112
It was still a team effort. So if she was hanging with Konvikt it was only due to the circumstances. Had she beat him one on one youd have a point but she didnt.Physically Sentry is well beyond WW imo. She is more skilled but that doesnt really help her much against Superman either does it?
Prove That she is the weak link. When GL scanned Konvict, his power readings were still off the charts while he was knocked out. So he wasn't eany weaker when Wondy was fighting him alone. You forget that she did fight him one on one for quite a while while Superman attended to Batman.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33I agreed this coul dand most likely would come down to two on two minus Juggernaut and the WW Hulk so us having a debate over who out of these two is easier to bfr is kind of a waste of time. Wouldnt you agree?
WWH is as much at risk of BFR as Juggernaut. Plus these are teams, if they want to win, don't you think they're going to make sure their main source of muscle doesn't get BFR'd? Hulk or Juggernaut?
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33Agreed.
I agree, BFR sucks anyway.
To me I think bfr is only viable or should be if someone like Juggs is involved with his plot device or if someone has the odds stacked against them.
But usually I would hope when most make these threads they dont see bfr as an actual win. We want to see these fight 99 percent of the time not beat with with a ring out so to speak.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Prove That she is the weak link.
In a two on two fight that is
WW and BRB vs Thor and sentry, she is definitely the weak link. She has the most limited powerset out of all of them. She may be the best Hand to hand fighter and have her lasso but that can be kept in check by sentrys enrgy powers. NOw her shield and bracelets will help her to bear alot of sentrys enrgy attacks but certainly not all of it. HEr weakness to sharp objects will be her downfall as the sentry can use his enrgy to temeporarily subdue her and then drive thousands of hard sharp light constructs into her body. T
Originally posted by ultimatethor
In a two on two fight that isWW and BRB vs Thor and sentry, she is definitely the weak link. She has the most limited powerset out of all of them. She may be the best Hand to hand fighter and have her lasso but that can be kept in check by sentrys enrgy powers. NOw her shield and bracelets will help her to bear alot of sentrys enrgy attacks but certainly not all of it. HEr weakness to sharp objects will be her downfall as the sentry can use his enrgy to temeporarily subdue her and then drive thousands of hard sharp light constructs into her body. T
Um, Wonder Woman subdued by sentry's energy? I haven't seen someone on his level do that. And I haven't seen him use his powers like you suggest. So far, Wondy's extremely durable to energy attacks. As seen when she covered a warp core explosion with her body. As far as thousands of hard light constructs, she blocked that many or more when she fought the god of light. What is going to help sentry from her right hook? Or that lasso? or getting beheaded by her tiara? Sentry is the weak link in this two v two.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Um, Wonder Woman subdued by sentry's energy? I haven't seen someone on his level do that. And I haven't seen him use his powers like you suggest. So far, Wondy's extremely durable to energy attacks. As seen when she covered a warp core explosion with her body. As far as thousands of hard light constructs, she blocked that many or more when she fought the god of light. What is going to help sentry from her right hook? Or that lasso? or getting beheaded by her tiara? Sentry is the weak link in this two v two.
In WWH sentry used his enrgy to hold WWH down on the floor temporarily. WWH is physically considerably superior to wonderwoman so it should not be that hard for Bob to do the same to her. Yes wondy is quite durable but it does not mean that the sentry cant affect her with his enrgy. Also i mentioned sentry subduing her with his enrgy in order to make her unable to block his thousands of sharp light constructs. In this fight sentry is not going to be charging in like he was against WWH so he can use his enrgy to guard against the tiara. Also wonderwomans right hook is not going to badly dmage a guy that took multiple shots from WWH.
Sentrys enrgy and light manipulation makes the differenc here.
Originally posted by ultimatethorWait. When did Sentry become such a wonderful tactician? Why is World War Hulk considerbly stronger than WW? What has he done that puts him so far above her? And If' I"m not mistaken, speed and skill also add to the damage someone can inflict. WW's speed is far greater than hulks. And so is her skill. Now Sentry is going to not rush in to wonder woman when he does that ALL of the time? WTF. And he's going to use his energy powers to subdue her. Goodness. All while crating thousands of light shards.
In WWH sentry used his enrgy to hold WWH down on the floor temporarily. WWH is physically considerably superior to wonderwoman so it should not be that hard for Bob to do the same to her. Yes wondy is quite durable but it does not mean that the sentry cant affect her with his enrgy. Also i mentioned sentry subduing her with his enrgy in order to make her unable to block his thousands of sharp light constructs. In this fight sentry is not going to be charging in like he was against WWH so he can use his enrgy to guard against the tiara. Also wonderwomans right hook is not going to badly dmage a guy that took multiple shots from WWH.Sentrys enrgy and light manipulation makes the differenc here.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Wait. When did Sentry become such a wonderful tactician? Why is World War Hulk considerbly stronger than WW? What has he done that puts him so far above her? And If' I"m not mistaken, speed and skill also add to the damage someone can inflict. WW's speed is far greater than hulks. And so is her skill. Now Sentry is going to not rush in to wonder woman when he does that ALL of the time? WTF. And he's going to use his energy powers to subdue her. Goodness. All while crating thousands of light shards.
There the rule on this forum of characters using there established powers to the fullest. Supermans normal way of fighting bricks is to slug it out with them. But in a fight against hulk on KMC he uses his speed and is able to win handily. the way surfer fights all the time is by giving lectures to his opponents and hence giving them openings to attack him. But on KMC he uses his powers fully. The same goes for thor who in the comics enjoys sluging it out and not using his more exotic powers but uses them on KMC. All that i mentioned is fully within Sentrys ability,and is therefore viable. WWH is considerably stronger than wonderwoman. Holding a larger than earth size planet together with pure strength unaided by anything such as hypersonic flight is a feat that puts him above her. When we also take into consideration the feats that hulks much weaker than WWH have performed such as, pnching thru a time storm, destroying an asteroid twice the size of earth, overcoming forces powerful enough to change the orbit of a planet etc, it is clear that WWH is stronger.
Wonderwomans does have great speed and skill but does not have the damage soak abilities of WWH. Hence the hits the sentry lands will cause more lasting damage than they did against WWH. Wonderwomans skill would come into play mainly if sentry tried to duke it out with her physically. There is howver no need for that with his light manipulation and enrgy powers. IF u dont like me saying thousands of shards than i can reduce the number to only one. As its only one well placed shard to the head that is needed to finish her off.
Originally posted by ultimatethor
There the rule on this forum of characters using there established powers to the fullest. Supermans normal way of fighting bricks is to slug it out with them. But in a fight against hulk on KMC he uses his speed and is able to win handily. the way surfer fights all the time is by giving lectures to his opponents and hence giving them openings to attack him. But on KMC he uses his powers fully. The same goes for thor who in the comics enjoys sluging it out and not using his more exotic powers but uses them on KMC. All that i mentioned is fully within Sentrys ability,and is therefore viable. WWH is considerably stronger than wonderwoman. Holding a larger than earth size planet together with pure strength unaided by anything such as hypersonic flight is a feat that puts him above her. When we also take into consideration the feats that hulks much weaker than WWH have performed such as, pnching thru a time storm, destroying an asteroid twice the size of earth, overcoming forces powerful enough to change the orbit of a planet etc, it is clear that WWH is stronger.Wonderwomans does have great speed and skill but does not have the damage soak abilities of WWH. Hence the hits the sentry lands will cause more lasting damage than they did against WWH. Wonderwomans skill would come into play mainly if sentry tried to duke it out with her physically. There is howver no need for that with his light manipulation and enrgy powers. IF u dont like me saying thousands of shards than i can reduce the number to only one. As its only one well placed shard to the head that is needed to finish her off.
The first and biggest problem with your statement is that you actually think sentry has the SKILL to pull off what you are proposing. Prove that first.
Then you think he can get thru her defenses when as you stated, she would also be operating to maximum efficiancy. Which means she won't allow him to get close enough and if he does, she would deflect his blast and punches. And she can return his fire back onto himself. Now she also can lasso him or cut his head off with her tiara. And since she's taken shots from oblivion who has proven to knock out Superman, I doubt Sentry is going to be able to do her more harm.