Sentry,WWH,Thor vs Wonderwoman,Juggernaut and Beta ray bill.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
He then realized he would not be able to defeat the newly-repowered Juggernaut, so he decided to use his momentum against him and send him out of the battlefield.

Two?

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Hulk is clearly the stronger and more durable, no limits. add to that his overall advantage in speed, mobility, fighting technique and brains ... Juggernaut isn't standing up to him.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
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Okay. He beat a vastly depowered Juggernaut.

One.

He then realized he would not be able to defeat the newly-repowered Juggernaut, so he decided to use his momentum against him and send him out of the battlefield.

Two?

😕

Bfr is a win on this board. That makes it two wins.

yes wwh will definitely overcome juggernaut in the end...but they would both be bfred well before its even close to the end or there fight

I don't see WWH getting bfr'd quickly, who's gonna do it?
WW's not got the power (as well as being busy fighting Sentry) and BRB's going to have his hands full with Thor.

if the pussy option of bfr is on then team 1, otherwise team 2 ftw because no one team 1 is beating juggs in a slugfest.

Originally posted by janus77
lol ❌.

and no, Juggernaut doesn't "return under his own power", show me a scan of him doing so? 'cos as far as I recall, he needs to beg and plead with Cyttorak to be transported across distances.

Hulk is most certainly >> Juggernaut, btw. Onslaught was physically >>>>> Juggernaut (punching him across a continent!), yet when a much more powerful Onslaught went up against Hulk, Hulk triumphed.

Hulk is too fast and mobile for a quick bfr, Juggernaut is immobile, unskilled and has been bfr'd by Hulk with a mere slap.

maybe unremitting hatred towards a character isn't the best place to start from, when judging how battles would go?

There have been at least two instances where Jean has telekinetically lifted Juggernaut off the ground. With no footholds or leverage, he started to walk forward, easily resisting Jean's telekinetic hold over him. On air, suspended above the ground. This leads (at least) me to believe that because of his mystical empowerment, he could potentially walk anywhere if he remembers that he can do this.

But this happens with Juggernaut. At one point, he displayed other offensive magical abilities, but they've been rarely touched on since then.

Hulk is too fast for a quick BFR? Do you have any idea how fast Wonder Woman is?

You guys are ridiculous.

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/wwh_juggs2.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/wwh_juggs3.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/wwh_juggs4.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/wwh_juggs5.jpg

Juggernaut is clearly overpowering the Hulk. Even manages to push him back.

More durable than Juggernaut? God, it's like some of you never knew about Juggernaut before he got depowered. Juggs is also just as strong he wants to be. Infinitely.

Would you call Superman BFRed if he was thrown off the Earth only to consciously stop himself and fly back? Well, the same applies here. Even if Juggs is BFRed, he'll just come back. It's not as if he's completely helpless once he's been removed. Also, that distance was only this one instance. Who's to say he'll be knocked that far away again? Of course (I'm fair), he could knocked farther away as well. Point is, he can return, and probably long before any winner between these two teams is determined.

Anyway. Juggy can also attack with other methods, and not just against Hulk:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/juggs_strange1.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/juggs_strange2.jpg

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/1971/18wj6.jpg

Originally posted by Metalmanx
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He then realized he would not be able to defeat the newly-repowered Juggernaut, so he decided to use his momentum against him and send him out of the battlefield.

Two?

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Im confused, i thought battlefiled removal was considered as beating someone? 😕

Originally posted by ultimatethor
Im confused, i thought battlefiled removal was considered as beating someone? 😕

It can be. And honestly, I'll be okay if it. My only problem is that some of these debaters seem to think that Juggy will be easily BFRed while Hulk will not. So I'm just sitting here, dumbfounded, trying to understand why they think that. Hulk's got a much higher chance of being BFRed than Juggy.

But yes. Regardless, both of them can be. And probably would be in a fight. So this thread is more accurately:

Sentry, WWH vs. Wonder Woman, Beta Ray Bill

Originally posted by Metalmanx
[B]You guys are ridiculous.

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/wwh_juggs2.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/wwh_juggs3.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/wwh_juggs4.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/wwh_juggs5.jpg

Juggernaut is clearly overpowering the Hulk. Even manages to push him back.

More durable than Juggernaut? God, it's like some of you never knew about Juggernaut before he got depowered. Juggs is also just as strong he wants to be. Infinitely.

Would you call Superman BFRed if he was thrown off the Earth only to consciously stop himself and fly back? Well, the same applies here. Even if Juggs is BFRed, he'll just come back. It's not as if he's completely helpless once he's been removed. Also, that distance was only this one instance. Who's to say he'll be knocked that far away again? Of course (I'm fair), he could knocked farther away as well. Point is, he can return, and probably long before any winner between these two teams is determined.

I dont know where the "clearly" in ur statement comes from. For one in that fight jugs got in three hits while hulk got in two. Getting in one more hit hardly qualifies as clearly overpowering. Further juggernaut pushing hulk back DOES NOT qualify as overpowering the hulk because juggernaut has an enchantment that makes him" UNSTOPPABLE" evn by the likes of hulk.

As for durability. Juggernaut is certainly more durable than hulk. That should not evn be debated. Howver i dont know where you are getting the idea that juggernaut can be as strong as he wants to be. If this was true then there would be know eighth day juggernaut or trion juggernaut who are versions of juggernaut that were able to access more of cyttoraks power. Cyttorrak may have infinite strength but as long as juggernuat is not accessing his full power all the time the same cannot be said of juggernaut.

Further if hulk BFRs juggernaut it wont be to some place jugs can come back within the duration of the battle. Jugs would likely be in another state. Howvwer for hulk to BFr jugs in such a way he would have to physically overpower him and overcome his resistance. The same goes for Juggernaut.

Team 1 takes this. Jugg will pump WWH up to levels that allow him to BFR Juggs.

Sentry and Thor vs Bill and WW?....

Team 1 all day.

Originally posted by janus77
I don't see WWH getting bfr'd quickly, who's gonna do it?
WW's not got the power (as well as being busy fighting Sentry) and BRB's going to have his hands full with Thor.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Or diana speed blitzes Hulk. Juggy beats thor again, and Beta rapes Sentry.

dont see beta rapeing sentry.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Team 1 takes this. Jugg will pump WWH up to levels that allow him to BFR Juggs.

Sentry and Thor vs Bill and WW?....

Team 1 all day.

I don't get see how you guys think BFR'ing Juggernaut is easier than BFR'ing the Hulk.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
I don't get see how you guys think BFR'ing Juggernaut is easier than BFR'ing the Hulk.

It's not. If anything. Hulk is taken out faster. That lasso out to do the trick.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
I don't get see how you guys think BFR'ing Juggernaut is easier than BFR'ing the Hulk.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Agreed. Thor could bfr Juggs immediately.

And Beta Ray Bill will BFR Hulk immediately.

Like I said before (although looking back, I realized I made a critical typo):

Sentry and Thor vs. Wonder Woman and Beta Ray Bill

still sensing your 'reasoning' is emanating more from your extreme dislike of the Hulk character than consideration of showings, powers and context.

Sentry and Thor will handle BRB and WW. Juggernaut will get BRF'd by Hulk.

Originally posted by janus77
still sensing your 'reasoning' is emanating more from your extreme dislike of the Hulk character than consideration of showings, powers and context.

Sentry and Thor will handle BRB and WW. Juggernaut will get BRF'd by Hulk.

Goddamnit. I'm getting tired of this.

I. DON'T. HATE. THE. HULK. I really don't. Don't believe me? Guess there's nothing I can do.

But Hulk can be BFRed just as easily as Juggy can. And either one of them/both of them should be BFRed immediately if these teams fight with any intelligence.

I like Sentry, but I haven't been too impressed with him lately. I think Wondy can take him. And Bill can at least hold off Thor for some time, allowing Wondy to double team Thor for the win.