PR Beyonder VS LT

Mr Master, you seem to think that i'm saying Beyonder is weak. No, he's incredibly strong. I never was arguing about his power level, i'm saying that like every other character on the forum he shouldn't be using this pre/post retcon nonsense.

People don't seem to fully understand what a retcon is around here.

This thread is so annoying. The same exact bullshit is being brought up and hell even that Chresh guy has stuck his nose in and no doubt he will rant that "retcon means revelation!" blah blah thus showing his ignorance of the purpose of any pre-retcon thread

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Originally posted by Creshosk
People don't seem to fully understand what a retcon is around here.

I should've made myself clear. For that, I am sorry. I didn't mean he's equal to the OAA as far as ultimate control or anything. I meant that, within the MU, no one could touch Pre-Beyonder, not even the LT.

Settle down good friends

Its why I don't partcipate in these threads

I'll only say, Beyonder was retconned for a reason. LT is still here

FYI this is Classic Beyonder

and

i know all about pre beyonder, friend

Pre-Beyonder destroys.

Originally posted by King Kandy

Mr Master, you seem to think that i'm saying Beyonder is weak.
No, he's incredibly strong. I never was arguing about his power level

Originally posted by King Kandy

Beyonder though wasn't all that tough really, most of it was illusion.

I'm not blaming you for this K, I've seen others make this incorrect claim.

For the record:

The only feats of the original Beyonder that were retconned (nullified) were:

1. Making the LT and the rest of the Multiversal Abstracts tremble in fear.
(retconned to just threatening Eternity)
2. Being Millions of times more powerful than LT and the Multiverse combined.
(completely retconned)
3. Creating a Reality that was an Ocean compared to the infinite Multiverse (a drop of water)
(retconned into a normal whole Universe)
4. Stomping the Celestials hand to hand.
(retconned into the Celestials allowing it)
5. Defeating Galactus' World Ship empowered Doom.
(retconned, specifics below)

That's it.

Evidently Beyonder was still really going to destroy Eternity,
and Eternity still needed to even leech off of some of Beyonder's power
in order to try and defeat him with Beyondersbane

(from Eternity's 2006 Handbook bio)

The incident with Doom stealing Galactus' power during Secret Wars is still canon,
only it was Galactus' power, not the World Ship's it seems cause that's not mentioned,
and apparently Doom getting defeated with said power is also canon,
because it goes on to state that Doom gained Beyonder's power too,
and we all know how that happened.

(Dr Doom's 2005 Handbook bio)

See,
in Galactrus' 2005 Handbook bio,
it sates Galactus was going to eat Battleworld, not the Ship itself.

So, as a man of truth I must submit,
it's clear that this was retconned a bit,
from Beyonder defeating a Galactus's Ship empowered Doom,
to defeating a normal Galactus empowered Doom.

Originally posted by King Kandy

i'm saying that like every other character on the forum
he shouldn't be using this pre/post retcon nonsense.

Well that's been going on in this forum for ever, and other comic book forums seem to not have a problem with this.

So I guess it's a personal observation whether one likes it or not.

Simple solution though,
don't like it, don't participate in said type threads. 🙂

Lt for the win

This thread will be closed and warnings given if people can't be civil.