Originally posted by DigiMark007
Yeah, he seems a quick study. Props. I was ready for some fem-dom action from Charlotte after that writeup of his, but it never materialized (alas!).Though you'll want to establish amalgamations in your writeup next round. Just a suggestion.
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And if he did amalgamate Electro and Taskmaster, the stuff with armours would have been possible- due to Electro powering up Taskmaster's standart equipment...without it...alas🙁
Originally posted by Faux Smurph
lol, Leo, that was about 4 and a 1/2 hours too late.... haermm
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Anyway, posted this in our match thread, but it's relevant to everyone.
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Maybe a point for later matches/future tourneys - perhaps adding an extra day time on the limit to allow for "reply only posts" - where no further offense can be made but gives participants the opportunity to address anything that is brought up last minute.
Not only fair to different time zones, but it allows everything to face cross examination - isn't that the point of a tournament based on debating?
Otherwise, what's to prevent a team in any given match to write up all their posts in MS Word (or whatever) then wait to the last 10 minutes of the last day and post everything at once in order to deprive their opponents a chance at rebuttal?
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I think it's worth addressing given that I didn't even have the chance to read, let alone respond, to the last few posts in our match.
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Originally posted by Scoobless
😮Anyway, posted this in our match thread, but it's relevant to everyone.
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Maybe a point for later matches/future tourneys - perhaps adding an extra day time on the limit to allow for "reply only posts" - where no further offense can be made but gives participants the opportunity to address anything that is brought up last minute.
Not only fair to different time zones, but it allows everything to face cross examination - isn't that the point of a tournament based on debating?
Otherwise, what's to prevent a team in any given match to write up all their posts in MS Word (or whatever) then wait to the last 10 minutes of the last day and post everything at once in order to deprive their opponents a chance at rebuttal?
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I think it's worth addressing given that I didn't even have the chance to read, let alone respond, to the last few posts in our match.
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Current schedule doesn't benefit Europeans much. I'm from EEST standart time and deadline is 10 AM in my timezone. Most days (expect tuesday and friday) I don't have time to answer in the morning due to university studies which I happen to have in the first half of a day (today I had a day off, and in the morning was too sleepy for actual debating...got up only at 9 AM my timezone).
I remember having the same problem as Scoobs in my match with B-Dub last time we've faced, so Scoobs' concerns aren't invalid or anything...though we, Europeans, are the minority here, it seems (2 people from GMT, me is from EEST).
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
I remember having the same problem as Scoobs
This is far from the first time I've seen it happen or had it happen to me ... it just seems to spit in the face of the spirit of debating, whether it's intentional or not.
(do spirit's have faces?)
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Anyway, I'm off out to get pished again (staff night out) feel free to discuss this in my absence.
I personally think it would be a solid idea as long as it only allows for reply only posts with no new tactics, strategies or attacks.
Give it some thought.
I'll be back to give everyone a sampling of drunken ramblings later (if I find my way home at all)
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I'll agree with Scoob. Something like that would be good. He obviously feels it hardest because he's in another hemisphere, but if it can happen to a partner team (Scoob/leo) it can certainly happen to us individuals if we happen to be busy on a particular Thursday. It ends up killing the spirit of debate.
I'd actually propose for the playoffs that we have an indefinite match length (within reason), keep the 10 post limit, and simply allow both teams to get to 10 posts (or to defer and say that they're done). That way everyone gets their full say, and there's no last-minute winners and losers with post count.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
I'll agree with Scoob. Something like that would be good. He obviously feels it hardest because he's in another hemisphere, but if it can happen to a partner team (Scoob/leo) it can certainly happen to us individuals if we happen to be busy on a particular Thursday. It ends up killing the spirit of debate.I'd actually propose for the playoffs that we have an indefinite match length (within reason), keep the 10 post limit, and simply allow both teams to get to 10 posts (or to defer and say that they're done). That way everyone gets their full say, and there's no last-minute winners and losers with post count.
It might be even harder to solo European-based entries, like me...so Digi's proposal sounds truly valid.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
...which thus lends some credibility to my proposal, I would think. Charlotte's on board too.My apologies fangirl. I wish you could have posted. One match doesn't sink you, however. You'll have an opportunity to bounce back.
Well, this is a quasi-democracy, so participants and judges, please post your opinions on "Shock and Awe" posting. Should we stick with the established deadlines, or allow specialized flexibility for last minute rebuttals?
As it stands now, every participant has 86 hours (from 10:00am PST on Mondays to Midnight on Thursdays (12:00a PST Friday) to use their post quota. Taking into account timezones, each participant should have equal amounts of waking hours to post arguments and rebuttals, but the issue is that in the final hours of a match people in the Western Hemisphere have a seemingly unfair advantage due to posters in the Eastern Hemisphere usually being asleep or just beginning their days at the end of matches (12:00a PST is 8:00a GMT), and posters in the Eastern US are, well, likely asleep for the most part (save B-Dub, as he is a souless vampire).
I'm not sure there's really a way to rectify this situation because if we allow time for rebuttals to "last minute" posts, the person being rebutted receives the same disadvantage this aims to rectify if there is a point made in the rebuttal to which the opposition can pose a retort. Someone is always going to get the last word, that's the nature of arguing, but just because someone got the last word doesn't mean they won the argument.
Personally, I think the key is to make your argument air tight so that regardless of someone slipping in a post just under the wire it's of no consequence because you covered all your bases.
Agreed ill. But those are the problems with Scoob's approach to the problem. Charlotte and I were endorsing this:
Originally posted by DigiMark007
I'd actually propose for the playoffs that we have an indefinite match length (within reason), keep the 10 post limit, and simply allow both teams to get to 10 posts (or to defer and say that they're done). That way everyone gets their full say, and there's no last-minute winners and losers with post count.