Originally posted by fangirl101
In Virtue and Vice, Hawkman's attack did more damage than the combined assualt of Superman, CM, and WW. I'd say his Mace and his own strength are nothing to be laughed at.
Never said they were laughable. I respect Hawkman a lot. I just don't think he brings the right things to the table here.
Originally posted by Boy Blue
Here's what you posted:Neither of which you have yet to prove.
Because you can't prove them.
So you're resorting to ABC logic and insults to try and weasel out of what was obviously an inane assumption, because you're biased beyond belief.
Do you even know how much 100 tons is?
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Either back this up or Fangirl is full of BS.
Originally posted by Boy Blue
Here's what you posted:Neither of which you have yet to prove.
Because you can't prove them.
So you're resorting to ABC logic and insults to try and weasel out of what was obviously an inane assumption, because you're biased beyond belief.
Do you even know how much 100 tons is?
Originally posted by Raoul
i was actually beginning to like this thread...don't turn it into a 'is hulk stronger than BA/Superman' argument...
Ah Ok. I kinda think they are all somewhere around the same level myslef. Which is why I think that Colossus taking shots from Hulk wouldn't be any more impressive than Hawk taking one from either of those guys.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Class 100 is nothing more than aquaman can handle. Hawkman and Aquaman have comparable strength. And Colossus is durable. But he can still be knocked out by a nice nth metal hit to the dome. And I didn't insult. You misquoted me and I corrected you.
Still abc logic...
Please put up feats scans for HM.
Originally posted by fangirl101I'm not even going to touch the Aquaman buisiness... but you still have yet to prove that Hawkman can lift 100 tons. Or more.
Class 100 is nothing more than aquaman can handle. Hawkman and Aquaman have comparable strength. And Colossus is durable. But he can still be knocked out by a nice nth metal hit to the dome. And I didn't insult. You misquoted me and I corrected you.
Who has Hawkman one-shotted with his mace that's on the durability level of Piotr?
And I would say "Next time don't post if you can't understand what was written." was an intended insult.
Originally posted by fangirl101
And WWH is better than BA? Or Superman?
Hes not better but he most definetely stronger by a gap. There hasnt been one feat from either that you can post that rivals or even equals hulk lesser strength feat. I can give you one, lifting up a mountain, 150 billion fresh tons of weight. Comic wise I cant think of any top tier stronger then hulk (not sky father etc..), this is a guy that had the god like beyonder amazed at his strength. Precrisis superman even stated that hulk could be stronger (I know its a crossover, just wanted to bring it up.).
Originally posted by Endrict Nuul
My only concern is some funky weapon HM has that might hurt Colossus somehow. Other than that Colossus stomps.
A weapon that has been part of the character for ever. And the same one that did more harm to Despero's face, than a combined punch from SM, WW, ANd CM to the same area.
Originally posted by fangirl101
You just said that Colossus can fight better than hawkman. What the HELL? He may be more durable. He may even be stronger. Faster? Not likely. And Hawkman has nth metal mace to even things out.
Well Im basing this off of the fact that colossus has been trained by wolverine and been doing training room practice up to the max for at least 10 years now. On the charts hes listed as a 5 and is stated as knowing numerous of martial arts. When it comes to hawkman, even though I know hes a warrior I put him on the scales of thor, a bred warrior but could still get out fought by daredevil if he didnt have all of his other amazing powers (strength, etc....). I agree, he is a good fighter but I wouldnt say that he is even close to being one of the best in dc. Hell I would rank him as a 3rd tier fighter which is the same as colossus.
Originally posted by carver9
Hes not better but he most definetely stronger by a gap. There hasnt been one feat from either that you can post that rivals or even equals hulk lesser strength feat. I can give you one, lifting up a mountain, 150 billion fresh tons of weight. Comic wise I cant think of any top tier stronger then hulk (not sky father etc..), this is a guy that had the god like beyonder amazed at his strength. Precrisis superman even stated that hulk could be stronger (I know its a crossover, just wanted to bring it up.).
He only shoulder the mountain. As in braced it. Not the same thing. He didn't lift it. Pulling the Earth, or even a fraction of it, takes far more power. Superman, WW, MM, and others have done that. The Hulk is so strong that he couldn't over come Juggy's durability? Hmmm.
Originally posted by fangirl101
A weapon that has been part of the character for ever. And the same one that did more harm to Despero's face, than a combined punch from SM, WW, ANd CM to the same area.
Are you referring to the same despero that had sharks bitting chunks out of him. I can see colossus bouncing back up after a hit from hm mace. The thing is if hawkman can get that hit in before colossus grabs him and squezze the life out of him since he is by far faster then hawkman. The xmen dont have that same rule as the jla, they believe in killing. 😕
Originally posted by carver9
Are you referring to the same despero that had sharks bitting chunks out of him. I can see colossus bouncing back up after a hit from hm mace. The thing is if hawkman can get that hit in before colossus grabs him and squezze the life out of him since he is by far faster then hawkman. The xmen dont have that same rule as the jla, they believe in killing. 😕
Since when do you think Colossus is faster than Hawkman? Who's beaten flash level beings before. And you know despero's body changes with each host. each story arc involves a different despero level of durability. The only thing that remains constant is his telepathy.
Originally posted by carver9
Are you referring to the same despero that had sharks bitting chunks out of him. I can see colossus bouncing back up after a hit from hm mace. The thing is if hawkman can get that hit in before colossus grabs him and squezze the life out of him since he is by far faster then hawkman. The xmen dont have that same rule as the jla, they believe in killing. 😕
the x-men don't 'believe in killing' unless under extreme circumstances...