Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I don't get why this entire thread has become Hawkman vs Colossus...
It's not. colossus would still have to deal with BC's cry which has been able to pwn beings near superman level. Or maul. Who gets bigger and stronger. or spartan. who prolly would beat the crap out of anyone hand to hand in the thread.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Since when do you think Colossus is faster than Hawkman? Who's beaten flash level beings before. And you know despero's body changes with each host. each story arc involves a different despero level of durability. The only thing that remains constant is his telepathy.
Trust me, colossus is far faster then hawkman reflex wise. Please show me hawkman beating flash level beings and if he did deathstoke has defeated the original, he has defeated flash and colossus>deathstroke when it comes to speed.
I understand that each arc requires a different level of durability for despero but I brought that up so you can stop using abc logic.
Originally posted by carver9
Trust me, colossus is far faster then hawkman reflex wise. Please show me hawkman beating flash level beings and if he did deathstoke has defeated the original, he has defeated flash and colossus>deathstroke when it comes to speed.I understand that each arc requires a different level of durability for despero but I brought that up so you can stop using abc logic.
I Didn't use abc logic. I merely gave you an example of just how powerful a blow from nth metal is. You used an older verions of despero to try and discredit the feat. And I merely let you know, that each despero's strength and durability is different depeinding on the host body.
Originally posted by fangirl101
It's not. colossus would still have to deal with BC's cry which has been able to pwn beings near superman level. Or maul. Who gets bigger and stronger. or spartan. who prolly would beat the crap out of anyone hand to hand in the thread.
Superman has super hearing, 😕 that in no way give credit go black canary.
colossus would give anyone out here a fight and could possible beat them. The guy is so underrated that its ridiculous. If gladiator couldnt take him down easy, a guy who destroyed planets and moves planets on a regular basis, or wwh couldnt take him down easy, a guy who held planets together and a guy that lifted up 150 billion tons, or juggernaut not being able to take him out, a guy that pushed a amped hulk with celestial tech that one handed a pyramid, then I cant see no one on the field taking him out. Hell colossus durability is so strong that he took a blast that took out every super hero in secret war including the hulk and he was still standing. Again, colossus jumped out of a plane from cloud height and landed on his head and walked from the dust like nothing happened. Colossus would destroy hawkman and could beat almost anyone on the field. By the way hes way stronger then class 100.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
I don't see how Black Canary or Black Lightning could do it. BL would be pretty useless, as Piotr is immune to electricity.I'll admit I don't know the Wildcats that well, but how could Maul do it? It sounds like he can get superhumanly strong (how strong, by the way?) but he loses intelligence, something that Piotr has in spades for being a melee fighter.
How's Maul's durability though?
And I didn't realize that Spartan was on Majestic's level or that he could teleport opponents.
Originally posted by carver9
Superman has super hearing, 😕 that in no way give credit go black canary.colossus would give anyone out here a fight and could possible beat them. The guy is so underrated that its ridiculous. If gladiator couldnt take him down easy, a guy who destroyed planets and moves planets on a regular basis, or wwh couldnt take him down easy, a guy who held planets together and a guy that lifted up 150 billion tons, or juggernaut not being able to take him out, a guy that pushed a amped hulk with celestial tech that one handed a pyramid, then I cant see no one on the field taking him out. Hell colossus durability is so strong that he took a blast that took out every super hero in secret war including the hulk and he was still standing. Again, colossus jumped out of a plane from cloud height and landed on his head and walked from the dust like nothing happened. Colossus would destroy hawkman and could beat almost anyone on the field. By the way hes way stronger then class 100.
red tornado would destroy him though.
Originally posted by carver9
Superman has super hearing, 😕 that in no way give credit go black canary.colossus would give anyone out here a fight and could possible beat them. The guy is so underrated that its ridiculous. If gladiator couldnt take him down easy, a guy who destroyed planets and moves planets on a regular basis, or wwh couldnt take him down easy, a guy who held planets together and a guy that lifted up 150 billion tons, or juggernaut not being able to take him out, a guy that pushed a amped hulk with celestial tech that one handed a pyramid, then I cant see no one on the field taking him out. Hell colossus durability is so strong that he took a blast that took out every super hero in secret war including the hulk and he was still standing. Again, colossus jumped out of a plane from cloud height and landed on his head and walked from the dust like nothing happened. Colossus would destroy hawkman and could beat almost anyone on the field. By the way hes way stronger then class 100.
And yet colossus kept getting owned by Omega Red. A guy who got taken out by a building falling on top of his head. And this after he had absorbed Colossus power into himself. makes you think doesn't it. I doubt Colossus can beat Red tornado or Spartan for a serious majority. And I really don't think he can take more than one shot from the nth metal mace. If he does, he'd be dazed and confused lol.
not a chance.
I think that he is since wolverine=deathstroke in speed and couldnt hardily match colossus in the speed dept.
and colossus is listed as class 100. maybe he has feats that say otherwise, but he has couple of low showings too.
Who doesnt have low showings. colossus has many showing putting him above class 100.
Originally posted by fangirl101
And yet colossus kept getting owned by Omega Red. A guy who got taken out by a building falling on top of his head. And this after he had absorbed Colossus power into himself. makes you think doesn't it. I doubt Colossus can beat Red tornado or Spartan for a serious majority. And I really don't think he can take more than one shot from the nth metal mace. If he does, he'd be dazed and confused lol.
Besides red tornado who on the battlefield can beat omega red (lets see how much you know about red). Red has soloed the xmen, red threw a tank off him that was thrown on him by rogue and got up like nothing happened. Red stalemated iron man and had him at his grasp. Red was also getting amped by colossus which resulted in him getting stronger, faster, etc..., then when you answer that, answer this, do you think that hawk man can solo the xmen like red has done or take on wolverine, nightcrawler, and colossus like red did.
Omega red>>hawkman. Omega red would DESTROY hawkman, thats a none fight.
Originally posted by carver9
Besides red tornado who on the battlefield can beat omega red (lets see how much you know about red). Red has soloed the xmen, red threw a tank off him that was thrown on him by rogue and got up like nothing happened. Red stalemated iron man and had him at his grasp. Red was also getting amped by colossus which resulted in him getting stronger, faster, etc..., then when you answer that, answer this, do you think that hawk man can solo the xmen like red has done or take on wolverine, nightcrawler, and colossus like red did.Omega red>>hawkman. Omega red would DESTROY hawkman, thats a none fight.
You missed the ENTIRE point of the comment.
Originally posted by carver9
I think that he is since wolverine=deathstroke in speed and couldnt hardily match colossus in the speed dept.
wolverine has superhuman reflexes, as does slade... colossus is fast, but he's not on slade's level...
Who doesnt have low showings. colossus has many showing putting him above class 100.
colossus has only been class 100 since his return from the dead... he has a fair few great feats, thats true, but he has a few low ones too, especially in the last few issues...
Originally posted by carver9I would put Hawkman over Colossus in the speed department.
Trust me, colossus is far faster then hawkman reflex wise. Please show me hawkman beating flash level beings and if he did deathstoke has defeated the original, he has defeated flash and colossus>deathstroke when it comes to speed.I understand that each arc requires a different level of durability for despero but I brought that up so you can stop using abc logic.