Originally posted by darthgooberScott's blast range is tied into power. The more powerful the blast, the further it goes... and I'm almost positive that Scott's blasts, unless at full power, won't penetrate the atmosphere.
Do you have an example of Scott acting with such reckless abandon without concern for passing aircraft/orbital satellites/ect.?
Originally posted by darthgooberBecause that blast can still be dodged, and NC, Beast and Wolverine all have the feats. Colossus is very fast too, but he's also durable enough to just wade through it.
I didn’t answer the question because I wasn’t talking about focused blast. Why does he need to sharp shoot when he can use a large blast like this and fry them all at once...
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/4554/img008me0.jpg
Originally posted by darthgooberI'm assuming that Scott's gonna beat him to the quickdraw and that Nightcrawler, Colossus, Beast and Wolverine can provide ample follow up.
You’re assuming that the X-Men are going to be moving first and Skrull’s just going to deal with everything as it happens but why would he?
Originally posted by darthgooberHis shields were stronger at the beginning of his creation, but since then the f4 have grown a LOT more powerful, and no indication that Skrull recieved the same power ups.
Skrull’s shield are stronger than IW’s and always have been. I can understand his being barred from feats indicating the range of the FF’s powers because they train with them more so they’ve likely thought of uses that he hasn’t. But when it comes to the magnitude of their powers, anything the FF can do the SS can do because have the enhanced powers of the FF has been his staple from day one.
Thing went from a Class 5 to a Class 100...
Also, Invisible Woman can concentrate to make her shields more powerful. She always has. Skrull doesn't do the same thing, so he won't be putting out nearly as powerful shields.
Originally posted by darthgooberSpeed advantage? Lolwut?
And your scenario assumes that SS’s going to stand there and let all this happen The guy has a speed advantage over everybody on the field so the X-Men are going to have to react to him, not vice versa.
Originally posted by darthgooberWhat shows that he's got advanced enough reaction times to deal with Nightcrawler?
Super Skrull isn’t a “normal” person though.
Originally posted by darthgooberSuper Skrull's personality altered for the purpose of Annihilation... he became much more bloodthirsty and generally more of a brawler.
No PIS is an instance of someone “forgetting” powers that they’ve already shown it to be “in character” for them to use such as Supes not using super speed in a fight.. CIS is limitations that a character imposes on themselves such as Warlock’s reluctance to use the Soul Suck technique. If it’s been established that things like invisibility are “in character” for SS to use via his actually using them they’re fair game. See the frequency of their use is determined by the story the writer wants to tell(and is thus Plot Induced) so if he‘s not using them it qualifies as PIS. You might make a case for the things that we’ve NEVER seen from him(like Torch’s omni directional blast or force bubbles in the brain) qualifying as CIS, but if he’s used it before it falls under the PIS category. That’s why we say that Supes blitzes 10/10 despite the fact that it’s rarely seen in comparison to Supes’s overall appearances.
This is why it was never shown on panel, that he would access his invisibility... because it wasn't in character. He wanted to use all of his powers that hurt and caused pain, and that were major shows of force... when he was deciding to kill traitor responsible for the death of his son, he didn't do fancy stuff with bubbles in brains.
He ripped the limbs off and used Torch's flame to cauterize the wounds.
Whether he used to be different or not, invisibility is not within his character to immediately access as you're insisting. Especially from the get-go, and then flying into the air, so that the smoke and flame from Torch allows him to be traced anyways.
Originally posted by darthgooberIf Superman didn't blitz his enemy because he wanted to brawl so that they'd have prolonged suffering, and yet we awarded him 10/10 speedblitz wins anyways, you'd have a point.
Don’t blame me because I don’t agree with that particular policy as it leads to entirely too many 10/10 shutouts that we’d NEVER see in comics, but that’s the way things stand until the forum rules are revamped. Feel free to bump this then and see how my opinion changes.
Otherwise, in a case like this, it's not the same situation at all.
Originally posted by darthgooberThen he won't tag any of the X-Men.
Oh I was just talking about intensity, I have to problem admitting that SS isn’t likely to use the actual “Going Nova” technique.
Originally posted by darthgooberBecause Surfer was knocked off of his board, was hit by a blast of flame, and didn't destroy the Skrull in one shot.
Based on what? I know Surfer was holding back(he always was back then), but how do you see that as being any different than anyone else who fought him during that time period?
Originally posted by darthgooberYes.
I’m not being realistic? SS takes shots from guys like Thor and Surfer and takes on entire battalions of alien warships and you think that Colossus or Cyclops are going to be able to put him down if he does anything other than just stand there and let them?
Originally posted by darthgoober
Skrull has superior speed and reflexes to everyone on the opposing team and will therefore be acting first in this fight. A single wide area blast will fry most of the team and any but Nightcrawler are easily contained via FF bubble(Scott or Peter could probably break out eventually, but it would take a bit) and all but Wolverine(and possibly Beast) are all but helpless against invisibility.
Superior speed and reflexes? To Wolverine and Nightcrawler? Scans plz.
And I didn't see anything from him that was a particularly wide area blast... nothing that NC, Beast and Wolverine can't dodge.
Also, as you pointed out, they start .5 KM away... how is he going to make a wide blast that far out?
Originally posted by darthgooberBut not Skrull's.
Reed’s powers have proven resistant to Wolverines claws a couple of times now.
Reed's durability needs to be actively controlled.
Originally posted by darthgooberI'm not talking about using one power to the max... I'm talking about doing more than making his fists glowy and rocky.
Why would he focus on using one power to the Max when the combination is more effective?
Also, lolz at you posting this scan...
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/4554/img008me0.jpg
Which proves that he doesn't always guard his back, as he was tagged by a low soldier, when these are the friggin X-Men.
Team takes it.
