Originally posted by Starscream Mor the fact that napier joker got tooled by batman in the last couple scenes.
cuz insane people don't think clearly and are less likely to use strategy or tacticsalso, insane people may be more reckless...leading to greater chance of harm
ledger joker would kill nicholson joker in a h2h fight, i just prefer nicholson's portrayal of the character.
Originally posted by Air Legend
Yea isn't Jack's Joker more comparable to the comic Joker than Heath's? I mean Heath's Joker was badass, but a lot more serious than the comic book Joker I think.
I think Heath's Joker was more psychotic like the comic book version, but he was also a little too calculating. He complained about everyone having a plan, but he seemed to have more plans than any of them.
Originally posted by celestialdemon
I think Heath's Joker was more psychotic like the comic book version, but he was also a little too calculating. He complained about everyone having a plan, but he seemed to have more plans than any of them.
Originally posted by nimbus006
By the way, let's not underestimate Heath's Joker's intelligence. For as much of an anarchist/anti-schemer as he claims to be, his plans are exceptionally brilliant.
Ha.
Originally posted by Air Legend
Yea isn't Jack's Joker more comparable to the comic Joker than Heath's? I mean Heath's Joker was badass, but a lot more serious than the comic book Joker I think.
Maybe comparable to PC Joker, but not current, and certainly not the best Joker's we've seen. The Killing Joker Joker, Emperor Joker, Arkham Unleashed Joker, Last Laugh Joker, those are the Joker at his height of madness.
Jack was just a guy in makeup with some gimmicks. Ledger brought the nightmare of the Joker to life. The way he acted, that's the way the Joker does in the comics.
Jack wasn't funny. He was corny, ala Cesar Romero. Ledger was terrifying, but you couldn't help laughing at his sense of humor.
Originally posted by Starscream M
ok, the pencil feat showed that Ledger Joker has some serious reflexes and strengthhe also demonstrated tremendous pain tolerance
I'm not familiar with the Nicholson Joker but what physical feats did he have, if any?
he was just such a ramshackle kind of guy, that the attitude and maniacal persona made him really "larger than life" and kinda cool.
Jack's Joker is iconic ✅
Originally posted by janus77Jack's Joker is nothing on Ledger's Joker. Ledger's Joker was the vicious psychotic killer he was meant to be.
a 38" waist, I think 😄he was just such a ramshackle kind of guy, that the attitude and maniacal persona made him really "larger than life" and kinda cool.
Jack's Joker is iconic ✅
I just can't take Jack's Joker seriously in all honesty.
Originally posted by Da Joker
Joker wasn't complaining, it was all part of his plan. Everything he did was part of one giant plan.
According to himself, he was complaining.
"Do I really look like a man with a plan, Harvey? I don't have a plan. The mob has plans, the cops have plans. You know what I am, Harvey? I'm a dog chasing cars. I wouldn't know what to do if I caught one. I just *do* things. I'm a wrench in the gears. I *hate* plans. Yours, theirs, everyone's. Maroni has plans. Gordon has plans. Schemers trying to control their worlds. I am not a schemer. I show schemers how pathetic their attempts to control things really are. So when I say that what happened to you and your girlfriend wasn't personal, you know I'M telling the truth."
Originally posted by Da Joker
And I guess that poster above isn't aware there are smart psychotic people out there, including the Joker.
I'm well aware that there are smart psychotic people. I'm not complaining about that. What I'm saying is that the complexity of the Joker's plan was something more than what the comic book character would have come up with.
Originally posted by celestialdemonNein...
I'm well aware that there are smart psychotic people. I'm not complaining about that. What I'm saying is that the complexity of the Joker's plan was something more than what the comic book character would have come up with.
Comic Joker is a chess master that has taken part in major complex plans before, and formed them himself.
The movie truly captured his unique state of chaotic genius.
Originally posted by celestialdemon
According to himself, he was complaining."Do I really look like a man with a plan, Harvey? I don't have a plan. The mob has plans, the cops have plans. You know what I am, Harvey? I'm a dog chasing cars. I wouldn't know what to do if I caught one. I just *do* things. I'm a wrench in the gears. I *hate* plans. Yours, theirs, everyone's. Maroni has plans. Gordon has plans. Schemers trying to control their worlds. I am not a schemer. I show schemers how pathetic their attempts to control things really are. So when I say that what happened to you and your girlfriend wasn't personal, you know I'M telling the truth."
I'm well aware that there are smart psychotic people. I'm not complaining about that. What I'm saying is that the complexity of the Joker's plan was something more than what the comic book character would have come up with.
He was doing that to turn Harvey against everyone, I am so surprised you are the only person who didn't actually pick up on that. He had a bunch of little plans inside one big plan which was to turn Gotham's White Knight (Harvey Dent) into a murderer.
I don't believe that one bit. If the Joker were real, this is how he would be. And you're only saying a comic villain wouldn't come up with such a plan because it's never been done. All we've seen from even major villains are these little plans. This Joker was very smart, and had every step planned out. I had been waiting for a villain of this calibur for a long time, and now that we got him, I'm glad we got a villain as manipulating, crazy, & as smart as Heath's Joker.
Heath is the man and one day I'll meet him, and chat it up about his Joker. 😮💨
Originally posted by Da Joker
Because the Mods won't care? And it's not a wankfest. Only someone with a puny IQ like your's would take it that far. I never said anything about a wankfest when someone said Jack was the better Joker, so shut the hell up.
So yeah, reported.