Would TDK still have been successful without Joker?

i think that as long as they keep putting good actors as the villains and the scripts are really good and the keep the main cast the same like batman,Alfred, Gordan, and two face they can still do pretty good

If Batman returns can do well then couldn't TDK have done well...what is it that wouldn't have made it any better than if joker hadn't been in it. Is Two face just not a good villain on his own? In Batman forever he teamed with Riddler...and now TDK...two face again was not alone.

Originally posted by steverules
If joker hadn't been in TDK, and it had just been two face...would TDK have done as well as it did, would it have flopped or would it have been like batman begins and done ok but not great?

Yes, unequivocally, absolutely yes

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Yes, unequivocally, absolutely yes

I dunno what your saying yes to....I really shoulda made a poll

Originally posted by steverules
If Batman returns can do well then couldn't TDK have done well...what is it that wouldn't have made it any better than if joker hadn't been in it. Is Two face just not a good villain on his own? In Batman forever he teamed with Riddler...and now TDK...two face again was not alone.

i think its usually just who the actors are and who the writer/director is Tommy lee Jones wouldn't have in any selection for me to play two face and that was one of the Joel schumacher film so just him as director makes it suck

Originally posted by steverules
I dunno what your saying yes to....I really shoulda made a poll

'm saying that The Dark Knight was going to be successful irregardless of who was being cast. The story was excellent, the acting great and the action scenes soooooooooo great.

Yeah he sucked as two face...I forget the actor who played harvey/two face in TDK but I think he did a good job and had TDK been just two face then you never know it may have actually turned out great. I mean TDK was great with Heath as joker, he really did do a good job and he took the joker character to a whole new level...but I do think maybe TDK still coulda been a possible success.

Eh, no, most people are going to see TDK because of Heath Ledger alone, so if he wasn't in it, then I doubt it'd be breaking records everyday.

Originally posted by Da Joker
Eh, no, most people are going to see TDK because of Heath Ledger alone, so if he wasn't in it, then I doubt it'd be breaking records everyday.

I'm not saying it would have been as successful as it is now....but it still may have been a success with just two face...he makes for a good villain and he's one of the famous ones.

...(I forget the actor who played Harvey/two face in TDK but I think he did a good job and had TDK been just two face then you never know it may have actually turned out great).

The actor is Aaron Eckhart i thought he did really good too a film with just him as villain would probably have done as well as batman begins but nowhere as much as TDK

So no.3 could turn out to be like no.1...I mean without joker who's gonna wanna see part 3? I mean I know I will but are people gonna be interested with no joker? I mean from what I know there isn't gonna be a re-casting

The general consensus is that people would rather wait until another series for another Joker.

I doubt there will be another series for a while 🙁 So no joker till then, if it is ever re-started again

Of course it wouldn't have done as well. The Joker is one of Batman's most iconic villains, and the way in which the role was approached was nothing short of glorious.

Originally posted by steverules
If joker hadn't been in TDK, and it had just been two face...would TDK have done as well as it did, would it have flopped or would it have been like batman begins and done ok but not great?

What a ridiculous (and pointless) proposition!

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
What a ridiculous (and pointless) proposition!

What a ridiculous (and pointless) post! 🙄

I wouldn't have gone to see TDK if the Joker/Ledger wasn't in it, because I think Begins sucks ass. I fell asleep watching it the first time in theaters and then I saw it again a few weeks later and it was just incredibly boring. I really did prefer the over-the-top zany'ness and good humor that was in Batman '89 and Batman Forever, actually.

Originally posted by steverules
What a ridiculous (and pointless) post! 🙄

Woah, I see what you did there. Sophisticated!

Let me preempt your next thread: Would Titanic have been so successful without the iceberg?

Or:

Would The Shawshank Redemption have been so popular without the prison?

Getting the point yet, are ye?

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
Woah, I see what you did there. Sophisticated!

Let me preempt your next thread: Would Titanic have been so successful without the iceberg?

Or:

Would The Shawshank Redemption have been so popular without the prison?

Getting the point yet, are ye?

Not really since firstly titanic was real life and not having an ice berg would make no sense...shawshank redemption needed a prison for a guy who was being arrested...TDK without joker woulda still had Two face 😄

Originally posted by steverules
Not really since firstly titanic was real life and not having an ice berg would make no sense...shawshank redemption needed a prison for a guy who was being arrested...TDK without joker woulda still had Two face 😄

Oh, I'm sorry; I thought I was communicating with an adult, not a retarded 12 year old (dog).