Codename 47 vs Bob Lee Swagger

Originally posted by Impediment
I do things one step at a time in my forums.

Right now, you are guilty of calling someone an a$$hole, even if you describe it as "factually stated".

Please don't do it anymore.

I said he was acting like an *******, acting.

This is a common theme of his, he bullshits, uses double standards and constantly moves the goal post to fit his needs. Even when someone abides by his silly rules and still crushes his points, he lowers the debate by ever increasing dishonesty until someone does insult him for being a clear as day ass. Then he plays the victim. You've seen this happen many a time with him.

Mate, if 47 is shown shooting someone over 4km in distance than he can do that, whether you like it or not. He is superior in that aspect. What is possible in the real world is of no matter, it's a fictional action movie. What you are doing is like saying "Obi Wan can't force push Maul out of the way, it is not possible in our world".

We pit the combatants against each other with their specific skills as shown in the movie. Whether that is ever possible in the real world is no matter, so please stop with that childish argument, you clown.

As for the ******* thing:

******* means a stupid, mean, or contemptible person, stating that someone acts that way and it is called to be an ******* does seem appropriate if it applies. But it's your rules, so Robtard should probably drop it, even though it is not an insult as it was not in a rude tone, but in a factual one.

Originally posted by Robtard
You also said "I don't make assumptions, I purely go with what I see in the movies" in this very thread. Which isn't the case, as can be seen by anyone. Double standard for the win in your eyes, good show.

If I were to see 47 take a grenade point blank and walk away unscathed, and he was depicted as human, flesh and bone, yeah, I am gonna say "Thats crap."

Jesus, and that's coming from a Star Wars fan.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Yes, and I also said that fiction only goes so far with me. Like now, when the specs on a weapon are horribly blown out of proportion, and when a scene in a movie disproves what is said, I question it.

If I were to see 47 take a grenade point blank and walk away unscathed, and he was depicted as human, flesh and bone, yeah, I am gonna say "Thats crap."

I mean, you are ready to accept Swagger being a counter intel ace, though nothing in the movie shows it and just one guy said something about it, yet you disregard an actual scene. You are biased and wrong.

Originally posted by Robtard
I said he was acting like an *******, acting.

This is a common theme of his, he bullshits, uses double standards and constantly moves the goal post to fit his needs. Even when someone abides by his silly rules and still crushes his points, he lowers the debate by ever increasing dishonesty until someone does insult him for being a clear as day ass. Then he plays the victim. You've seen this happen many a time with him.

If I were to do the things you say I do, then there is a tactful way to counter it. But you seem to get your kicks calling me an *******.

Yeah, I go by whats in the movies. But, as I said, sometimes if I see something thats incredibly innacurate, then I am gonna question or discredit it.

if 47 was to shoot a 100 story building with a shotgun and the entire building blew up, you would really accept that as one of his talents?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Whatever, man.

If I were to do the things you say I do, then there is a tactful way to counter it. But you seem to get your kicks calling me an *******.

Yeah, I go by whats in the movies. But, as I said, sometimes if I see something thats incredibly innacurate, then I am gonna question or discredit it.

if 47 was to shoot a 100 story building with a shotgun and the entire building blew up, you would really accept that as one of his talents?

Well, yeah, if it was intended and it is intended that he could reproduce it then that would be one of his talents. I'd wonder what kind of talent that is though, maybe a Gambit sort of Energy blast.

You bait people into calling you things like that RJ, you do and you know it. Practically everyone on this board knows it.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, yeah, if it was intended and it is intended that he could reproduce it then that would be one of his talents. I'd wonder what kind of talent that is though, maybe a Gambit sort of Energy blast.

Lets say we are talking about Mace Windu versus Conan, lightsaber against sword. You cant give Conan a sword that blocks a lightsaber, it doesnt exist in Conans world.

Just like you cant say Mace Windus lightsaber can change from purple to red, such a thing does not exist in the SW universe.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Whatever, man.

If I were to do the things you say I do, then there is a tactful way to counter it. But you seem to get your kicks calling me an *******.

Yeah, I go by whats in the movies. But, as I said, sometimes if I see something thats incredibly innacurate, then I am gonna question or discredit it.

if 47 was to shoot a 100 story building with a shotgun and the entire building blew up, you would really accept that as one of his talents?

I did "tactfully" counter it over and over again, by using your own rules no less. There are several post were I did this.

You said "I go by what's in the movies, I don't assume" and "if it's in the movie it comes, endo story". 47 makes a 4km head-shot in the movie, period, you just couldn't accept it, so you danced.

The saddest part of you being so dishonest, it's that you're doing it to win in a hypothetical fictional fight debate. Childish to the core.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I was just using it as an example.

Lets say we are talking about Mace Windu versus Conan, lightsaber against sword. You cant give Conan a sword that blocks a lightsaber, it doesnt exist in Conans world.

Just like you cant say Mace Windus lightsaber can change from purple to red, such a thing does not exist in the SW universe.

So? Isn't that supporting my point? 47 can do it in his universe. So 47 should be able to do it in this fight.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
You bait people into calling you things like that RJ, you do and you know it. Practically everyone on this board knows it.

Here's a question. Lets say a hero in a movie surfs occasionally, he is average in skill. You see him surfing, you see him doing it as a hobby, and, as a surfer, you say "Well, he is OK, nothing special."

Then, later in the movie, someone says "Dude can do this and this on a board." This and this being certain moves that you, as a surfer, know to be VERY advanced moves, something only the elite surfers do. Are you going to go with it, or are you going to question it?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I was just using it as an example.

Lets say we are talking about Mace Windu versus Conan, lightsaber against sword. You cant give Conan a sword that blocks a lightsaber, it doesnt exist in Conans world.

Just like you cant say Mace Windus lightsaber can change from purple to red, such a thing does not exist in the SW universe.

Why do you assume that a gun that can shoot over 4km doesn't exist in the Hitman world? It's a fictional world too.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I state my opinions and back them up sometimes with facts, links and vids.

Here's a question. Lets say a hero in a movie surfs occasionally, he is average in skill. You see him surfing, you see him doing it as a hobby, and, as a surfer, you say "Well, he is OK, nothing special."

Then, later in the movie, someone says "Dude can do this and this on a board." This and this being certain moves that you, as a surfer, know to be VERY advanced moves, something only the elite surfers do. Are you going to go with it, or are you going to question it?

That's a harder question already. Someone saying something about the guy and something really happening are two different pairs of shoes. That's certainly something open for debate in a thread.

Originally posted by Bardock42
So? Isn't that supporting my point? 47 can do it in his universe. So 47 should be able to do it in this fight.

Originally posted by Robtard
Why do you assume that a gun that can shoot over 4km doesn't exist in the Hitman world? It's a fictional world too.

Originally posted by Bardock42
That's a harder question already. Someone saying something about the guy and something really happening are two different pairs of shoes. That's certainly something open for debate in a thread.

In the case of Hitman, he is shown shooting from a great distance and then it is said it was "over 4km". That doesn't count in RJ land.

In regards to Swagger's counter-intel, he takes a picture of plate and then it is said he's using counter-intel. This counts though.

Originally posted by Bardock42
That's a harder question already. Someone saying something about the guy and something really happening are two different pairs of shoes. That's certainly something open for debate in a thread.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
A fictional world using real life weapons.

Like that hi-tech fictional door-bomb 47 used? Try again, you're double-standard is showing.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Let me be perfectly clear....If a combatant is shown performing a certain feat with a certain weapon and I KNOW that the weapon is totally NOT capable of doing what he just did with it, I am gonna question it. Clear?

Sure, you can question it. He has shown that he can so. How? I don't know. He can though. And that makes him a better Sniper than Swagger.