Monarch vs Thanos

Originally posted by carver9
First thing the Drax and Thanos didn't destroy the planet... half of the planet was still up and it was a planetoid. I am asking you for a blast, something showing that he can tank wha Monarch can dish out. Didn't Thanos dodge a blast from the maker that was nuke like?

Also, stop bringing up the Thor fight, wasn't that impressive. Thanos took 3 hammer shots and went for a plot device.

So do you honestly believe that Thanos can tank an attack from current Surfer? It was never shown that Surfer has ever went out on Thanos before and he tends to fight like an idiot when facing Thanos.

Tyrant would have defeated Thanos if he stayed.

Prime was knocked out. Prime didn't show up a couple of panels after that blast.

Thor had a plot device and Thanos took a lot of punishment and smiled. Thor did far less and beat the Surfer and warlock prior to his plot device.

Surfer is far beneath Thanos and doesn't fight like an idiot he's just less intelligent, less powerful, etc. than Thanos so he can't win.

Yes, Thanos mauled Mar-vell who easily treated the Surfer like a minor irritant.

Speculation, but Tyrant did defeat Surfer with far less so the comparison stands.

That isn't koing this happens in fights all the time. You are wrong once again and can't prove it like usual.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No. Thanos matched her and a blast that hits someone completely isn't going to cause a lot of collateral damage on average since the character absorbed the impact. Yes, they did do so because of their battle.

Thor had a plot device and Thanos took a lot of punishment and smiled. Thor did far less and beat the Surfer and warlock prior to his plot device.

Surfer is far beneath Thanos and doesn't fight like an idiot he's just less intelligent, less powerful, etc. than Thanos so he can't win.

Yes, Thanos mauled Mar-vell who easily treated the Surfer like a minor irritant.

Speculation, but Tyrant did defeat Surfer with far less so the comparison stands.

That isn't koing this happens in fights all the time. You are wrong once again and can't prove it like usual.

Show me something that proves that Thanos can tank what Monarch can dish out.

Gladiator has tanked a solar system destroying blast but he has been dropped by far less. You can't go by showings like that. Show me a blast that Thanos has tanked from someone to prove your point.

Thanos got hit 3 times and pulled out a plot device. He did well against Thor but it wasn't nothing to brag about.

Thanos is above Surfer and that's not what I am denying but its debatable that he could tank a blast from current Surfer who create black holes from minor blast.

why bring up Marvel when I think Thanos is above Surfer? That still doesn't mean that he could tank a blast from current Surfer.

Originally posted by carver9
Show me something that proves that Thanos can tank what Monarch can dish out.

Gladiator has tanked a solar system destroying blast but he has been dropped by far less. You can't go by showings like that. Show me a blast that Thanos has tanked from someone to prove your point.

Thanos got hit 3 times and pulled out a plot device. He did well against Thor but it wasn't nothing to brag about.

Thanos is above Surfer and that's not what I am denying but its debatable that he could tank a blast from current Surfer who create black holes from minor blast.

why bring up Marvel when I think Thanos is above Surfer? That still doesn't mean that he could tank a blast from current Surfer.

Gladiator has been downed by Thor's hammer in Thor's hands or Masteron Thor's hands. The difference between Gladiator and Thanos is his level is well above top tier whereas Glads is not. You can't use one showing and ignore their history to prove a point. You really have no case of any kind.

Thor had his own PLOT DEVICE. Do you know what plot device means ? It was something to brag about since he tapped the i watch's asses, along with strange, and the surfer, easily. Do you not get it ?

In the same story with both characters current Surfer was toyed with by Mar-vell whereas Thanos choked him like a voorhees victim once again making the point clear, Thanos>>Surfer.

Because Mar-vell treated Surfer like a nobody whom Thanos treated like a nobody. How don't you get it ?

For the record, Surfer did unleash what he said was the might of the power cosmic or something like that. I'm unsure of when this occured, but it's in one of the thanos respect threads. Now, current Surfer, I have no idea. But back in the day? Thanos after being rezzed from death the first time was merely smoking when Surfer shot him. I believe this is also the 3 punch KO scene 😛.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The blast hurt that doesn't mean it temp ko'd him. Do you understand the difference ?

I have already cited a battle with a planet was wrecked in half and Thanos won so why does the Surfer need to do it to prove it when we already have an example. We have Surfer wanting to injure Thanos which he has been unable to do with his powers.

Surfer went all out on Thor in the same story where Thor beat him and warlock to the dirt. Thanos took on Thor with the power gem for sport. In every same story Thanos and the Surfer has been in Thanos has looked far superior which includes....

Odin who oneshotted the Surfer.

Tyrant who verified Thanos is more than these others were in cosmic powers.

Lord Mar-vell who Thanos tossed around like a ragdoll.

Against Thanos himself who beat him senseless.

Carver you are making this so easy.

Originally posted by Uriel005
just wanted to say that having somethin hurt and having it do something effective are two entirely different things. Anyone else here who has ever boxed/done full contact martial arts/ or has ever gotten into a fight period can tell you just because punches hurt does not mean they do anything to really bother someone in the middle of a fight. Also Monarch can destroy universes by accident via armor breach.... Thanos is nowhere near that level. Last time I checked he couldn't even crack a solar system under his own power let alone the universe. He has always and should always need an item to do such things for him. Also his shields aren't taking galaxy busting hits which if the Monarch wasn't interested in conquering instead of destroying universes he would unleash.

All Thanos would have to do anyways is teleport since the universe destruction isn't instantaneous but instead a chain reaction type event which only happens when he loses.

This has been done before and monarch still stomps.

Monarch does not come close to stomping. Not even close. By the way Carver... Thanos taking blasts from Tyrant, Odin, and Galactus surely means he can at least deal with Monarch level of power for awhile anyways. As far as planentary explosions you were looking for.. Thanos took a Gas Giant explosion point blank and didn't have a mark on him. Planet level explosions are nothing to Thanos carver

Originally posted by Sirius77
This has been done before and monarch still stomps.

Monarch

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Monarch does not come close to stomping. Not even close. By the way Carver... Thanos taking blasts from Tyrant, Odin, and Galactus surely means he can at least deal with Monarch level of power for awhile anyways. As far as planentary explosions you were looking for.. Thanos took a Gas Giant explosion point blank and didn't have a mark on him. Planet level explosions are nothing to Thanos carver

Thanos was nowhere near point blank for that gas giant explosion.

If I recall correctly, he was in space near the planet when the Fallen One fell into the planet and caused that explosion. As for how close Thanos was, all I can say is they were far enough for even his ferry sidekick to survive without even a scratch

Originally posted by paisapower
Thanos was nowhere near point blank for that gas giant explosion.

If I recall correctly, he was in space near the planet when the Fallen One fell into the planet and caused that explosion. As for how close Thanos was, all I can say is they were far enough for even his ferry sidekick to survive without even a scratch

Monarch.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Monarch does not come close to stomping. Not even close.

I beg to differ. Also keep in mind that monarch's power doesn't stop at planetary explosions. By accident, he busted a universe. The power that he was working to contain leaked out and destroyed everything. The suit contains the power that he as a high end energy manipulator, has access to. Logically, it should be well within his power to ko thanos.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on what does he stomp let alone win ?

We've debated this before. I'll ask you the same question I did last time. Do you think that thanos can stomp 50 captain atoms, and three supermen (one is more powerful than both combined and is an energy manipulator) under his own power seemingly without much effort? Also keep in mind that this was before he absorbed all 50 captain atoms, so he was probably a lot weaker.

Huh? That makes no SENSE. You do realize Odin called Thanos power reserves pretty much equal to his own. God know how much power is inside THanos or that he can draw upon. I've seen nothing even try and quantify said power, nor does he have some lame armor to breach to see what it would take out. Point is, you have no basis for saying Monarch houses more power inside him than Thanos. None. Furthermore, his armor getting breached and that power doing anything ISN'T indicative of what he can produce via blast. If you have any evidence he could channel all the energy inside him into one blast.. please point such evidence. As it stands, he was NEVER able to produce any kind of blast such as that. Period.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Point is, you have no basis for saying Monarch houses more power inside him than Thanos. None. Furthermore, his armor getting breached and that power doing anything ISN'T indicative of what he can produce via blast. If you have any evidence he could channel all the energy inside him into one blast.. please point such evidence. As it stands, he was NEVER able to produce any kind of blast such as that. Period.

A statement that Thanos *might* have similar power reserves to Odin is crap compared to the on-panel showing of Monarch's energies wiping out a Universe.

I thought I was VERY clear. In a vs. fight all that energy won't be released at once like the universal destroying blast. If you have ANY scan that shows him able to channel ALL the energy inside him into a blast that would applicable to a vs. fight.. (NOT HIM GETTING TOOLED AND HAVING ALL HIS ENERGIES RELEASED) please post it. As it stands... he has NEVER EVER shown the ability to channel that much power into blasts. Just like Odin has never fired ONE blast that used up every single ounce of energy inside him or that he can draw upon. I thought this point was clear.. so either you just posted some nonsense that didn't reflect what I asked for, or you monarch DID produce such energies in a blast (not from getting tooled and defeated and all his energies released)

^ And Thanos has showings that would back up his "almost as good as Odin" crap? kinda

So Monarch has NEVER released that type of power in one blast or blasts that he did from getting tooled and ALL his energy being released? Good thought so

I guess Monarch is above abstract level, he can shoot energy blasts that can destroy a universe (supposedly). He's more powerful than Galactus and Eternity 😘 .