Originally posted by Arachnid1
Not really. Eric is his horseman, and its highly likely they were linked once Apoc amped him too. Plus, Apoc didn't mentally screw Xavier that scene. He took control of cerebro, like Beast said, since technopathy is part of his ability set. Thats why Cerebro didn't shut down even after he destroyed the console Xavier was hooked into.So far, you have no definitive scenes of Apoc mind screwing anyone but Xavier, who he was already attached to in some way. If he was a telepath (a more powerful telepath than Xavier apparently), he wouldn't need Xaviers powers.
He can't even rebut this, he ran off like a coward.
Originally posted by Arachnid1
Not really. Eric is his horseman, and its highly likely they were linked once Apoc amped him too. Plus, Apoc didn't mentally screw Xavier that scene. He took control of cerebro, like Beast said, since technopathy is part of his ability set. Thats why Cerebro didn't shut down even after he destroyed the console Xavier was hooked into.So far, you have no definitive scenes of Apoc mind screwing anyone but Xavier, who he was already attached to in some way. If he was a telepath (a more powerful telepath than Xavier apparently), he wouldn't need Xaviers powers.
Incorrect. Apoc was using Xavier through Erik and Cerebro to mindhack a lot of people into launching nukes, and despite everything Xavier couldn't stop him.
I already explained why Apoc required Xavier's specific power set over his own. While Apoc's TP is incredibly powerful on individuals, he lacks Xavier's range. You want to twist what happened into something else? Then prove it.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
He can't even rebut this, he ran off like a coward.
I need to sleep sometime TI. And hey, I thought you were convinced before. and double hey, you just backstabbed ME when you thought I was offline...
Thats great.... Here I thought we were getting along better...
Originally posted by Arachnid1
I more assumed he got that from all the records and whatnot he absorbed from the net. The fact that Mags is a holocaust survivor and thats why he's a super powered terrorist is probably on record somewhere.Apoc does not have mind powers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Men:_Apocalypse
Telepathy - Apocalypse has the power to look into (thus instantly learning the names and characteristics of his allies and opponents) and dominate the minds of others, forcing them to do his bidding. This allowed him to make Magneto, Storm, Psylocke, and Archangel into his new incarnation of the four Horsemen of Apocalypse. His power is so great, that even Professor X (himself an extremely powerful telepath) is susceptible and displayed signs of great awe and fear of Apocalypse's power, claiming to have never felt anything like it before. Furthermore he was the only one, who could feel the telepathic presence of Professor X (while his powers where augmented by Cerebro), instantly connect with Cerebro and force the nations to destroy all nuclear weapons. In fact, while engaging in a mental battle with Professor X on the astral plane, Apocalypse proved stronger, as he gained the upper hand relatively quickly, beating the professor's astral projection to the ground (leaving him bloodied and weak), and the fight only became evenly matched when Apocalypse was faced Phoenix in both the astral plane and the real world. Whenever he took over a mind, it visually manifested on his victim, unlike any other known telepath. It caused the eyes of those he possessed to turn completely black, as shown with the Professor and the technicians at the nuclear silos around the world.
Mental Shielding - Apocalypse was able to shield the minds of his four Horsemen of Apocalypse from the telepathic power of Professor X, furthermore completely blocked the Professors powers.
Originally posted by Arachnid1
Not really. Eric is his horseman, and its highly likely they were linked once Apoc amped him too. Plus, Apoc didn't mentally screw Xavier that scene. He took control of cerebro, like Beast said, since technopathy is part of his ability set. Thats why Cerebro didn't shut down even after he destroyed the console Xavier was hooked into.So far, you have no definitive scenes of Apoc mind screwing anyone but Xavier, who he was already attached to in some way. If he was a telepath (a more powerful telepath than Xavier apparently), he wouldn't need Xaviers powers.
He took over Charles mind and order them to launch the rockets.Cerebro only amps the power of the user without a telepath it doesnt work.
Originally posted by Estacado
Movie Apoc never displayed technopathy.He took over Charles mind and order them to launch the rockets.Cerebro only amps the power of the user without a telepath it doesnt work.
He did display technopathy he hacked ever single sat and hard drive, and server and learned every single piece of information available on the web.
He instantly learned English as well as all other languages and learned the entire history of every mutant he sought.
Nuclear weapons have to be launched manually with keys. Means someone had to turn them. He used Charles mind to force them to turn them.
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Steph or LeBron, who wins
I'm rooting for my Warriors
Originally posted by Robtard
I'm rooting for my Warriors
yea same. I'm not a fan of either but feel that GS will be repeat champs
Originally posted by EstacadoHe was able to access all the info and history in the world by touching an old TV. Not to mention control what was playing through to focus on Magneto, which is how he learned of Magnetos powers and history. There's also the scenes where he uses his powers to control the machine that transfers his consciousness to other peoples bodies. He's had multiple instances of displayed technopathy.
Movie Apoc never displayed technopathy.He took over Charles mind and order them to launch the rockets.Cerebro only amps the power of the user without a telepath it doesnt work.
Also, didn't the scenes of the launches show the men were baffled too? They didn't set the nukes off, Apoc did using his control over technology. He just learned about their existence and locations using Cerebro. It looked like the men did it to the Generals because they were set off locally, but this was done by Apoc taking control of the machinery.
Also, Cerebro was linked to a telepath. Thats why it was fully functional when Apoc took control of it. It was still amping Xaviers abilities, but controlled by someone else.
If Apoc was a telepath, he could just hook himself up to Cerbro with the helmet and amp his own powers. There's no reason he'd need Xavier. Him being a telepath makes no sense, and I don't get why people are so fixated on it.