Off Topic Circle Jerk

Originally posted by Arachnid1
He was able to access all the info and history in the world by touching an old TV. Not to mention control what was playing through to focus on Magneto, which is how he learned of Magnetos powers and history. There's also the scenes where he uses his powers to control the machine that transfers his consciousness to other peoples bodies. He's had multiple instances of displayed technopathy.

Also, didn't the scenes of the launches show the men were baffled too? They didn't set the nukes off, Apoc did using his control over technology. He just learned about their existence and locations using Cerebro. It looked like the men did it to the Generals because they were set off locally, but this was done by Apoc taking control of the machinery.

Also, Cerebro was linked to a telepath. Thats why it was fully functional when Apoc took control of it. It was still amping Xaviers abilities, but controlled by someone else.

If Apoc was a telepath, he could just hook himself up to Cerbro with the helmet and amp his own powers. There's no reason he'd need Xavier. Him being a telepath makes no sense, and I don't get why people are so fixated on it.

Incorrect on numerous levels. You wish to think the technopathy, which never ever showed that kind of reach before without a direct interface, was somehow capable of jump jacking Xavier THROUGH Erik? Whaaaa?

The only reason Apoc wanted Charkes was for his range. I have said that numerous times. Apoc's TP is localised, more focused. Not a broad spectrum like Charles is.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Incorrect on numerous levels. You wish to think the technopathy, which never ever showed that kind of reach before without a direct interface, was somehow capable of jump jacking Xavier THROUGH Erik? Whaaaa?

The only reason Apoc wanted Charkes was for his range. I have said that numerous times. Apoc's TP is localised, more focused. Not a broad spectrum like Charles is.

And no, he didn't use the technopathy through Eric. That link is just how he learned of the location of the nukes. He used his own abilities, which do reach that far, to do so. He can amp Mags or Xavier to work on worldwide scales with a touch. It's pretty likely he can too.

What was interesting imp, was he could not Amp Erik, Erik just had to know how far he could reach, he literally just took his hand and put it on the ground and told him his power runs through the entire earth. He only showed him his true potential.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
And yet he never used this TP on anyone who's not Xavier, and this was only because Xavier assaulted him. Why is that?

And no, he didn't use the technopathy through Eric. That link is just how he learned of the location of the nukes. He used his own abilities, which do reach that far, to do so. He can amp Mags or Xavier to work on worldwide scales with a touch. It's pretty likely he can too.

So you don't think he mentally seduced the Horsemen?

Ahahahahaaaa! No, Arachnid, I want you to think very hard about that scene. He used Xavier's power through cerebro as a mouthpeice, while mentally making those men turn the nuke launch keys. He never used Technopathy at all in that scene.

He used technopathy many times.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
He used technopathy many times.

Not without touching the device he didn't. The TV, the Pyramid essence transfer machine.... All by touch.

Your point, people here literally said he never displayed technopathy and you never rebutted them.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
So you don't think he mentally seduced the Horsemen?

Ahahahahaaaa! No, Arachnid, I want you to think very hard about that scene. He used Xavier's power through cerebro as a mouthpeice, while mentally making those men turn the nuke launch keys. He never used Technopathy at all in that scene.

Except we never saw anyone physically turn keys. It made it look like the tech was doing it itself. Why frame it that way otherwise? Why not show the men themselves launching it?

http://xmenmovies.wikia.com/wiki/Apocalypse

YouTube video

I didn't see it. And you said I was the sole one who said Apoc had TP.... So someone is screwing around. around

Originally posted by Estacado
Movie Apoc never displayed technopathy.

He took over Charles mind and order them to launch the rockets.Cerebro only amps the power of the user without a telepath it doesnt work.

Here

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
http://xmenmovies.wikia.com/wiki/Apocalypse

I didn't see it. And you said I was the sole one who said Apoc had TP.... So someone is screwing around. around

Originally posted by Arachnid1
They all joined him of their own free will. Mags did through grief, the others through greed for power. It's also how they so easily turned on him at the end. If he was a telepath who could control people at shorter distances than Xavier but more powerfully, this wouldn't have happened.

Except we never saw anyone physically turn keys. It made it look like the tech was doing it itself. Why frame it that way otherwise? Why not show the men themselves launching it?

Yes we did. The military servicemen in the subs and bunkers put the keys into the machines and turned them. Unless your saying the nuclear launch keys were in their keyholes prior to the mindjack, in which I would say is a gigantic WTF moment. Because you don't just leave keys of that importance in the ignition.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Yes we did. The military servicemen in the subs and bunkers put the keys into the machines and turned them. Unless your saying the nuklear launch keys were in their keyholes prior to the mindjack, in which I would say is a gigantic WTF moment. Because you don't just leave keys of that importance in the ignition.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
I'll have to rewatch but no, key's would not be in. You need to have permission to insert those, and it takes two separate keys being inserted turned at the same time by separate people along with an authorization code to launch a nuke. If that scene was shown, then it was for a reason done through cerebro. I'm man enough to admit you win that argument. That scene wasn't just technopathy, though it might have been him using technopathy to control xaviers powers with cerebro or something of that nature. Xavier was in control of his own mind, since has talking to beast that entire time, unlike the end when he was in Apocs mind and completely comatose in real life. Still not an instance of irrefutable TP. More him using technopathy to hijack cerebro through his link with Mags.

Except Apoc had no idea regarding Cerebro, it's location, or how it is used. You can't just bypass Charles and say he hacked Cerebro directly, because the link chain passes through Charles' powers. How can you say Apoc technophaged the machine when it was Charles who not only initiated the link, but it was through his powers that Apoc found a way in? It doesn;t make any sense in the way you described, because Cerebro is the last part of the link chain for your theory to work.

Yep, so let it be known now, Time-Immemorial now blocks people who disagree with him on arbitrary grounds. I never placed him on ignore, even during his meltdown of spam flooding my inbox full of personal attacks and e-threats, but the moment he can't prove a point on a character in a vs match and can't debate the point rationally, he places me on ignore because I won't let him state his opinion as fact.

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Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Yep, so let it be known now, Time-Immemorial now blocks people who disagree with him on arbitrary grounds. I never placed him on ignore, even during his meltdown of spam flooding my inbox full of personal attacks and e-threats, but the moment he can't prove a point on a character in a vs match and can't debate the point rationally, he places me on ignore because I won't let him state his opinion as fact.

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So not only are you a back stabbing son of a stubs, but you come here to cry and lie, like a whiny stubber?? I played a game on you to see if you would turn back to your back stabbing ways, turns out your a real piece of shit. Truce over, and it will never return. 👆

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
So not only are you a back stabbing son of a *****, but you come here to cry and lie, like a whiny *****?

Nope, just stating the facts as you relayed them to me it. 🙂

If youintend on ignoring me, for simply having a difference of opinion, and STANDING UP for that opinion, then at least be man enough to stand by that conviction, OR be man enough to redact your previous staement and come back to the debating table. Don't just throw it all in the lurch like that.

Besides, how is me posting what was stated in a public place backstabbing?

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Yep, so let it be known now, Time-Immemorial now blocks people who disagree with him on arbitrary grounds. I never placed him on ignore, even during his meltdown of spam flooding my inbox full of personal attacks and e-threats, but the moment he can't prove a point on a character in a vs match and can't debate the point rationally, he places me on ignore because I won't let him state his opinion as fact.

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Back stabbing son of a bvtch. I find it hilarous you cry and whine like a little pussy like you will when this gets nasty, then you will start playing the victim. Your a pathetic human, when are you not going to be around anymore?

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Nope, just stating the facts as you relayed them to me it. 🙂

If youintend on ignoring me, for simply having a difference of opinion, and STANDING UP for that opinion, then at least be man enough to stand by that conviction, OR be man enough to redact your previous staement and come back to the debating table. Don't just throw it all in the lurch like that.

Besides, how is me posting what was stated in a public place backstabbing?

You ran here and cried like the little ***** you are, when are you leaving us for good?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
You ran here and cried like the little ***** you are, when are you leaving us for good?

So, making a mockery of your hypocritical stance & laughing at it = crying in your mind? 😐

Wow... just wow.

When I am dead. Which isn't a long way off.