I guess when Joker was falling off the building about to die he was actually crying instead of laughing. He doesn't care whether he lives or dies.
One of his plans for Batman was that he wanted him to kill someone, even if it was Joker himself it didn't matter to him.
Joker is smarter than anyone Mclane has ever faced. Joker if he want to will be out of the building as it explodes with Mclane in it.
And why is everyone acting like Joker doesn't have a friggin gun? He wielded many of them in the movies.
Originally posted by willofthewisp
Scenario 1: Even if Joker also has a gun, McClane could take him. In TDK, there were plenty of opportunities for someone to kill Joker, namely Batman, but he didn't because that goes against his moral code. John McClane wouldn't mind killing in such a case.
Why do people assume Joker will treat everyone like he treats Batman? There is only one reason why Joker eggs Batman into killing him... because he knows Batman cannot. That's how the Joker views Batman... and the biggest joke for him to give to the Bats is to push him over the edge to make him break his rule.
If it were any other man... Joker would use other mind games or just forgo the whole thing, and just kill them. Like how he was going to kill the Mayor... or Gamble... or even those cops... hell, even his own henchmen.
Have people forgotten the other things he did?
Originally posted by demoneyeslaharl
. Like how he was going to kill the Mayor... or Gamble... or even those cops... hell, even his own henchmen.Have people forgotten the other things he did?
Interestingly enough, none of those people were really in the middle of a combat situation when he did it. They were all in a false sense of security. The Mayor and the Commissioner were surrounded by their own men. Gamble was in his own HQ, chilling and playing a game of pool, surrounded by his body guards. Mcclane will be alone, and he is far smarter and more resourceful then any of the people Joker killed.
Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Interestingly enough, none of those people were really in the middle of a combat situation when he did it. They were all in a false sense of security. The Mayor and the Commissioner were surrounded by their own men. Gamble was in his own HQ, chilling and playing a game of pool, surrounded by his body guards. Mcclane will be alone, and he is far smarter and more resourceful then any of the people Joker killed.
Did you mention again that John won't hesitate to shoot? There ass-clowns don't seem to get it.
Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Interestingly enough, none of those people were really in the middle of a combat situation when he did it. They were all in a false sense of security. The Mayor and the Commissioner were surrounded by their own men. Gamble was in his own HQ, chilling and playing a game of pool, surrounded by his body guards. Mcclane will be alone, and he is far smarter and more resourceful then any of the people Joker killed.
If its intelligence alone, Joker takes the cake. Unless Mclane can be as smart and as cunning as Batman, then he will find himself playing Joker's game, or dancing in his tune. I am willing to bet that those 'false sense of security' was the Joker's ploy too...
Like I said... if Joker doesn't factor in Mclane... Mr. Badass will kill him. But if the Joker does... then Mclane's chances drop fast.
Originally posted by Robtard
Did you mention again that John won't hesitate to shoot? There ass-clowns don't seem to get it.
I do get it. But will the Joker give him the opportunity for him to do so? Check what he did at the movies... he was never really found! He was always either flushed out in the open (being in the hunter mode), or if he was in the open, its because he had the upper hand (hostage situation, which is there in scenario one). Plus, he has hostages... 🙄 I'm sure the Joker would ignore that little tidbit if he knew there was a cop gunning after him.
Originally posted by demoneyeslaharl
I do get it. But will the Joker give him the opportunity for him to do so? Check what he did at the movies... he was never really found! He was always either flushed out in the open (being in the hunter mode), or if he was in the open, its because he had the upper hand (hostage situation, which is there in scenario one). Plus, he has hostages... 🙄 I'm sure the Joker would ignore that little tidbit if he knew there was a cop gunning after him.
No, there were uncountable moments when he could have been shot.
Originally posted by Robtard
Oh know, he'll try and play some little mind game because he has hostages and he'll except "the cop" to play along. Little does the Joker know, John shoots first and asks questions later.
If he wants to play mind-games. Seriously... the only real mind games he played at the movie was for Batman and Dent... and it was only because he wanted to corrupt them both.
The only other person he played mind games too... also a cop, btw, was that idiot in the interrogation room. Also Gordon, as well.
Again... I cannot stress this enough. If Joker doesn't factor in Mclane... he will die. Shot. Or blown to pieces. If he does... Mclane's chances drop fast. Really fast.