Originally posted by jinzin
😂Pretty hypocritical considering Walt had to cheat to get the upper hand eh?
OR the fact that Sasquatch never really "won" seeing how Sabretooth was nowhere NEAR incapacitated smiling at his punches.......Before he chucked that snowball at Sabretooth's face all he got for his troubles was his guts clawed into. 😬
Comics> your Sasquatch bias..... but you know I still luv ya. 🙂
Ummm...what? I didn't even mention the part where Sabretooth actually attacked Walter from behind first, and then Walter jumped at him and he clawed him in mid-air and then did the snowball trick. So I'm sorry how is that biased again? and for the fact how was I being hypocritical about pointing out he fell in a trap which Sabretooth did with prep and he wouldn't get here? I didn't say it was a cheap tactic, but a tactic he wouldn't be able to use here
Oh the irony.
Originally posted by jinzin
🤨More of this crap?
Yeah we KNOW that Sasquatch has capitalized on sneak attacks to Logan TWICE, and that's the best he's ever done against Logan in 616, the second sneak attack of which did NOTHING...
What else do we know? The only on panel (non 616) fight that has any context between the two had Sasquatch running the hell away from Wolverine even though morph was there to support her...
Your telling me I'm ignoring the context? It was even said IN THE ISSUE, Heather Hudson (exiles Sasquatch) killed her realities Wolverine ie. her husband in that timeline and was emotional about doing it again when she came across another berserker Wolverine from a different Earth. In the same issue she said he might have to do it again and was happy she got teleported away before she had to make that choice again. 😬
Originally posted by -K-M-Uh because... you were being bias by trying to totally invalidate Starscream's opinion simply based on the fact that Walter was winning the fight nevermind the circumstances...
Ummm...what? I didn't even mention the part where Sabretooth actually attacked Walter from behind first, and then Walter jumped at him and he clawed him in mid-air and then did the snowball trick. So I'm sorry how is that biased again? and for the fact how was I being hypocritical about pointing out he fell in a trap which Sabretooth did with prep and he wouldn't get here? I didn't say it was a cheap tactic, but a tactic he wouldn't be able to use here
Yet, the one exchange they had between them that wasn't backed with plot devices or cheap shots, Sabretooth being able to beat Sasquatch WAS COMPLETELTY validated as he appeared the superior of the two.
To say that Starsreams argument goes without merit because Sas happened to be winning that fight while ignoring the circumstances that got him the advantage? Yeah.. bias...
Originally posted by -K-M-Tell me about it KM... Tell me about it.
Oh the irony.
Originally posted by -K-M-
Your telling me I'm ignoring the context?
Yes.. cause you are... 😐
Implying that Starscream's arguments have no merit concerning Wolverine because of your implications that Sas has beaten Wolverine in an actual fight when nothing of the sort has ever taken place between the two in 616 IS IGNORING CONTEXT.
"we all know how Wolverine faired against Sas" 😐
Originally posted by -K-M-
It was even said IN THE ISSUE, Heather Hudson (exiles Sasquatch) killed her realities Wolverine ie. her husband in that timeline and was emotional about doing it again when she came across another berserker Wolverine from a different Earth.
It's relative to hyporbole... why do you think I mentioned context in the first place?
Did she kill him while he was fighting/killing the rest of Alpha Flight?
Was his HF taxed?
Did she sneak attack him?
Did she only think she killed him and win through a plot device like dropping a house on top of him?
Did she BFR his ass and assume he was dead when he wasn't?
Did she kill him while he had a moment of weakness like the Wolvie she fought in Exiles?
Did she manage to Tanaraq out FTW?
Yeah, your guesses are as good as mine since we're never given ONE PANEL of the fight to draw context from.... So.... HYPORBOLE.
Originally posted by -K-M-Yeah and? What she said was only PROVEN to be hyporbole as the fight that the two DID have caused her to beat a hasty retreat. 😐
In the same issue she said he might have to do it again and was happy she got teleported away before she had to make that choice again. 😬
Originally posted by jinzin
Uh because... you were being bias by trying to totally invalidate Starscream's opinion simply based on the fact that Walter was winning the fight nevermind the circumstances...Yet, the one exchange they had between them that wasn't backed with plot devices or cheap shots, Sabretooth being able to beat Sasquatch WAS COMPLETELTY validated as he appeared the superior of the two.
To say that Starsreams argument goes without merit because Sas happened to be winning that fight while ignoring the circumstances that got him the advantage? Yeah.. bias...
He's using faulty logic about a story he himself didn't read, and using an arguement such as Sabretooth has every advantage (which he doesn't) so thus he wins and even using things as wikipedia as evidence.
Except Walter jumped in the air and Sabretooth slashed him, wowza great exchange. Right after Walter threw a snowball at him and then proceeded to hit him in the face a few times.
He threw a friggin snowball 😬, I don't think you understand what is biased, as me being biased would be talking about how Sabretooth attacked Walter from behind and not mention the snowball at all. That's bias
Originally posted by jinzin
Tell me about it KM... Tell me about it.
You took things out of context in your respect thread, such as the Mauvais fight concerning Snowbird.
Originally posted by jinzin
Yes.. cause you are... 😐
Implying that Starscream's arguments have no merit concerning Wolverine because of your implications that Sas has beaten Wolverine in an actual fight when nothing of the sort has ever taken place between the two in 616 IS IGNORING CONTEXT."we all know how Wolverine faired against Sas" 😐
How did I ignore context? I even posted the entire fights in all it;s entirity in the Sasquatch respect thread. Nothing was taken out of context and the Sasquatch/Wolverine scans have been posted many a times on this board hence "we all know how Wolverine faired against Sas"
Originally posted by jinzin
And?It's relative to hyporbole... why do you think I mentioned context in the first place?
Did she kill him while he was fighting/killing the rest of Alpha Flight?
Was his HF taxed?
Did she sneak attack him?
Did she only think she killed him and win through a plot device like dropping a house on top of him?
Did she BFR his ass and assume he was dead when he wasn't?
Did she kill him while he had a moment of weakness like the Wolvie she fought in Exiles?
Did she manage to Tanaraq out FTW?Yeah, your guesses are as good as mine since we're never given ONE PANEL of the fight to draw context from.... So.... HYPORBOLE
No, because it has been stated in several issues she personally killed Wolverine herself. She even in the same issue said she could do it again
No his death was confirmed
No Wild Man ie. Wolverine was confirmed dead and we see her holding his dead body.
No again because as noted he was in a blind berserker rage thanks to that chip
No, because as noted the first and only time she Tanaraq'ed out as noted by Tanaraq was when Kulan Gath casted that spell to bring him forth
Originally posted by jinzin
Yeah and? What she said was only PROVEN to be hyporbole as the fight that the two DID have caused her to beat a hasty retreat. 😐
Because as mentioned she didn't know what to do, and didn't want to have to kill her husband again. That's ignoring context 😬
wow, Jinzin and I are on the same side of a debate for once 😱
And Mungi, I didn't say Sabretooth has every advantage, so stop misquoting me! 😠
Sas's only advantage is strength, which makes not a difference when Sabretooth has laughed off punches from Rogue and Ms. Marvel.
And Sabretooth is more dangerous than Wolverine, because he can exert far more force behind his adamantium claws than Logan could.
Originally posted by Starscream M
wow, Jinzin and I are on the same side of a debate for once 😱And Mungi, I didn't say Sabretooth has every advantage, so stop misquoting me! 😠
Sas's only advantage is strength, which makes not a difference when Sabretooth has laughed off punches from Rogue and Ms. Marvel.
And Sabretooth is more dangerous than Wolverine, because he can exert far more force behind his adamantium claws than Logan could.
You said every advantage sans strength, which is still incorrect.
......did you jusy compare Rogue and Ms.Marvel to Sasquatch? Like how they are comparable in strength? lulz
Except Wolverine has a better track record, and Wolverine has longer claws compared to Sabretooth's nails
Originally posted by -K-M-
You said every advantage sans strength, which is still incorrect.......did you jusy compare Rogue and Ms.Marvel to Sasquatch? Like how they are comparable in strength? lulz
Except Wolverine has a better track record, and Wolverine has longer claws compared to Sabretooth's nails
yes I did...Sas is comparable to Rogue and Ms. Marvel
sure Logan has longer claws, but sabretooth has a much longer reach which makes up for logan's claw length, and sabretooth is far stronger than logan
Originally posted by Starscream M
yes I did...Sas is comparable to Rogue and Ms. Marvelsure Logan has longer claws, but sabretooth has a much longer reach which makes up for logan's claw length, and sabretooth is far stronger than logan
Haha are you kidding me? You seriously believe Rogue is just as strong as Sasquatch?....wow, simply wow
You don't seem to get it, biggers claws can make up more damage. Wolverine can sink in his claws in deeper like a sword (Wolverine's claws are 17.8"😉, while Sabretooth can basically just "claw" at with his nails which are maybe 1-2". Also Walter's reach is drastically superior to Wolverine's or Sabretooth's so not sure what point your trying to make.
And as of late Sabretooth and Wolverine's strength are very comparable as shown in their recent fights
Originally posted by -K-M-
Haha are you kidding me? You seriously believe Rogue is just as strong as Sasquatch?....wow, simply wowYou don't seem to get it, biggers claws can make up more damage. Wolverine can sink in his claws in deeper like a sword (Wolverine's claws are 17.8"😉, while Sabretooth can basically just "claw" at with his nails which are maybe 1-2". Also Walter's reach is drastically superior to Wolverine's or Sabretooth's so not sure what point your trying to make.
And as of late Sabretooth and Wolverine's strength are very comparable as shown in their recent fights
did I say Rogue or Ms. Marvel is just as strong as Sasquatch? no. I said they were comparable...Sas may be a bit stronger, but not by much.
Sabretooth is at least class 10 to 15, making him many times stronger than logan.
Originally posted by Starscream M
did I say Rogue or Ms. Marvel is just as strong as Sasquatch? no. I said they were comparable...Sas may be a bit stronger, but not by much.Sabretooth is at least class 10 to 15, making him many times stronger than logan.
haha abit stronger? When has Rogue caught a 6 story apartment building from falling over? or when has Rogue dragged a 5000 ton Navy Cruiser to shore and lift it out of the water? When has Rogue throw a 250 ton DC-10 with it's engines on full power 1000 ft and with ease. You seriously have no idea what your talking about. Seriously show me Rogue's best strength feat...go on. Honestly you are properly the most uninformed member on this board.
Where are you getting this figure? Don't say the handbooks as it doesn't say that
Originally posted by -K-M-Ms. Marvel has lifted a hellicarrier before, which is over 1000 tons
haha abit stronger? When has Rogue caught a 6 story apartment building from falling over? or when has Rogue dragged a 5000 ton Navy Cruiser to shore and lift it out of the water? When has Rogue throw a 250 ton DC-10 with it's engines on full power 1000 ft and with ease. You seriously have no idea what your talking about. Seriously show me Rogue's best strength feat...go on. Honestly you are properly the most uninformed member on this board.Where are you getting this figure? Don't say the handbooks as it doesn't say that
also, sabretooth has thrown a car into a building...that takes at the very least, class 10 strength
Originally posted by Starscream M
Ms. Marvel has lifted a hellicarrier before, which is over 1000 tonsalso, sabretooth has thrown a car into a building...that takes at the very least, class 10 strength
That's Ms.Marvel AFTER her various upgrades and she had help doing so. You do know in the old days Rogue and her were class 50 right? 😬
No it doesn't 😬
Originally posted by -K-M-
That's Ms.Marvel AFTER her various upgrades and she had help doing so. You do know in the old days Rogue and her were class 50 right? 😬No it doesn't 😬
well, I'm saying today Ms. Marvel is onpar in strength with Sas, not the old days.
And you name me one character who's under class 10 who could throw a car...
Originally posted by Starscream M
well, I'm saying today Ms. Marvel is onpar in strength with Sas, not the old days.And you name me one character who's under class 10 who could throw a car...
She still isn't at all, and Sabretooth used to clash with the olden days Ms.Marvel/Rogue so makes your point kinda moot
Hawkman, even Cage when he first started out who was much below class 10. A normal sized car is practically only 1-2 tons you know
Originally posted by -K-M-the car he tossed was a police cruiser, which is about 2 tons
She still isn't at all, and Sabretooth used to clash with the olden days Ms.Marvel/Rogue so makes your point kinda mootHawkman, even Cage when he first started out who was much below class 10. A normal sized car is practically only 1-2 tons you know
the thing is he didn't just lift it
he tossed it up a 2 story building
so, I could bench 200 lbs, but I can't even toss that weight above my head
I don't think I could toss a 20lb object 2 stories
so I think Sabretooth is at least cl10
Originally posted by Starscream M
I can't believe you're really debating me that Sabes isn't CL10...I'm pretty sure that's considered common comic knowledge
Because your doing so well backing up your points 🙄
I asked for you to prove it, and I guess you can't. I basically asked where you got it that's all