United States Presidential Election 2008 - Official Discussion Thread

Started by Red Nemesis143 pages
Originally posted by KidRock
Out of context. There are plenty of nutjob obama supporters out there like there are mccain ones..and if u havent met a single one then what I said is true, you havent met many obama supporters.

NO. If, having met a large portion of Obama supporters, (I have) without meeting any "nutjobs" (I have not yet met an individual that fills your description), it would suggest that the majority of Obama supporters (in my region) are not "nutjobs". You seem to be founding your opinion on the individuals that you have met, which is not necessarily a representative sample. I'm not saying that there are no crazies, but to say that they are the majority requires a greater amount of evidence than you have provided- which is actually none at all.

Originally posted by KidRock
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You're just descending into blind demagoguery.

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
NO. If, having met a large portion of Obama supporters, (I have) without meeting any "nutjobs" (I have not yet met an individual that fills your description), it would suggest that the majority of Obama supporters (in my region) are not "nutjobs". You seem to be founding your opinion on the individuals that you have met, which is not necessarily a representative sample. I'm not saying that there are no crazies, but to say that they are the majority requires a greater amount of evidence than you have provided- which is actually none at all.

Once more, I am not saying the majority of them are nutjobs..once again I am saying there are plenty of nutjobs among them.

Originally posted by Strangelove
You're just descending into blind demagoguery.

Stupidity as well.

I'm not actually seeing any arguments from Kid Rock here.

What a stupid outlook; "Don't believe me, I won't be too disheartened.", then don't bring it up.

If you brought it up, you obviously thought it carried weight. If that's the case, proof be needed.

-AC

Originally posted by KidRock
Point me to where I said ALL democrats believe Obama is a god.

Thanks, better luck next time.

Hahahaaa, strawman, and so soon? I never claimed that, I was using your very own retard-like tactics of "I said so, so it is" back at you.

You claimed there are people (lib'rals) who think Obama is a some sort of messiah or God, I challenged and still challenge you to show me some proof of this. So? (this is where you duck out and wait until a few pages turn, or will you try another asshat maneuver?)

Originally posted by KidRock
Vagina doesnt play politics.
Originally posted by Rich Lowry of the National Review
I'm sure I'm not the only male in America who, when Palin dropped her first wink, sat up a little straighter on the couch and said, "Hey, I think she just winked at me." And her smile. By the end, when she clearly knew she was doing well, it was so sparkling it was almost mesmerizing. It sent little starbursts through the screen and ricocheting around the living rooms of America. This is a quality that can't be learned; it's either something you have or you don't, and man, she's got it.

Sorry Mr. Rock, but I don't think that dog hunts, brother.

What exactly is the man attributing to Palin? Star-power?

Originally posted by Robtard
What exactly is the man attributing to Palin? Star-power?

That she gives him a boner.

Originally posted by Robtard
What exactly is the man attributing to Palin? Star-power?

That's his way of covering his ass for the boner he got.

Originally posted by Devil King
That she gives him a boner.

She's an attractive woman, I haven't pitched a tent for her though.

I noticed during the debates, she's had some work done to her face, her neck was wrinkled and a bit saggy, while her face was pulled tight.

I don't see her as attractive, she beats the average 40+ year old, but I wouldn't call her a VPILF, if she ever does become VP.

Here's the latest on the Obama lies:

Originally posted by some youtube turd

Sadly LIBERALS are getting all their information from the MEDIA, Obama is and will always be a MUSLIM, he has terrorist ties and I will blame each and every LIBERAL SCUM when he wins and DESTROYS this country, I will also defend my family and home against them with deadly force! IT will take FOUR years for people to see the disaster that Obama will bring to AMERICA...OBAMA admits himself to being Muslim, he registered in school as a MUSLIM, his father was a MUSLIM and he was named after him, he is not CHRISTIAN and shares none of those philosophies...you are IGNORANT just like the OTHERS, you are probably BLACK and voting on color!

I found this in my inbox just now. Think its worth a thought out reply?
(note- I'm the whitest kid to ever walk the earth. I'm outside for hours, but I'm like a mirror. I reflect. Then I sunburn.)

The guy's a ****ing moron.

The best line was what is always repeated by rep-tards which is "the liberal media".

What is the "liberal media"? No media is mentioned. However, FOX is still seen as a credible source, and was probably the inventer of the term.

Obama is a christian, which, is probably no better in my eyes, but it's so stupid how people don't know that. FOX is the only news source that says Obama is a muslim, and this is the news source that said Democrats are not American and John Kerry was French.

I know he's an idiot, I need to know if he's worth correcting. I whipped up some pseudo-intellectual BS to throw at him:

You do realize that FOX news is a media outlet as well? To denounce the media is to denounce FOX news. The media is merely a source of information, and the majority actually leans right. (conservative) Obama is not a Muslim, he was an active participant in a Christian church for many years. I would LOVE to see any concrete evidence of these "terrorist ties." There is simply no evidence for any of the claims you have made. The video that you attached is an eleven second excerpt, taken entirely out of context, of a politician *misspeaking*. He was commending the McCain campaign on not propagating lies. As for Obama's father:
His father's beliefs are not automatically his, and being named after a Muslim does not effect one's own beliefs. (Read: Obama's name does NOT change his religion.) Also, a candidate's religious views should not enter into the equation, since there is a provision in the constitution guaranteeing that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..." This says that there will never be a requirement to follow any particular religion (or any religion at all) in order to take a government position.
I am a Caucasian, of Irish and German descent. I find it insulting, however, that you place importance on the color of my skin, going so far as to imply that were I an African American I would default to ignorance. Some of the most intelligent people in the world are of African descent, and are more than capable of making a decision based on Sen. Obama's policies and platforms rather than his physical appearance.

From the emphasis you place on supposedly "Christian" values, I can only assume that you are a follower of that religion. I encourage you to read your bible, and focus on the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth. He emphasizes acceptance and love, as well as pacifism (turn the other cheek) and your assertion that you would use "deadly force" doesn't follow in that tradition at all. Your un-Christian hate and vitriol sadden me, and I look forward to the day that you see reason.

This is probably a waste of time, but here is the list of your mistakes:
1. Your own information also comes from the media.
2. Obama is NOT a Muslim, he is an active Christian
3. He is also a patriot, as am I, and I resent your baseless accusation that he wishes to "destroy this country". He has done more for the United States than you have, or likely will in your lifetime.
4. While it is not clear who you desire to apply "deadly force" to, I suggest that you seek counseling to deal with your anger and hate.
5. Obama does not admit to being a Muslim, likely because he isn't one.
6. He attended a Muslim school, which is different from being a Muslim. He also attended a Catholic school.
7. His mother was an Atheist, his father was a Muslim. He obviously didn't accept either one of their worldviews.
8. He is in fact, a Christian, but this does not matter. He is still more qualified to the presidency than Bush was, or Sen. McCain is now.
9. I find it amusing that you call me ignorant, when you spout out the FOX news buzzwords of the last three months, and can't construct a complete sentence.
10. I am not black, but this should not matter either. Your prejudice saddens me.

P.S. In any response you give me, try not to capitalize every other word. It makes you sound like a scared 12 year old.

I just don't know if it was worth my time.

I haven't sent it yet- should I?

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
Here's the latest on the Obama lies:

I found this in my inbox just now. Think its worth a thought out reply?
(note- I'm the whitest kid to ever walk the earth. I'm outside for hours, but I'm like a mirror. I reflect. Then I sunburn.)

His biggest concern/fear is "Muslim", should tell you something about what kind of person he is.

Edit:

No, you shouldn't send that answer, it will obviously fall on deaf (ignorant) ears. Send something like this, it will be far more effective to his ilk:

Derka, derka, Muhammad Jihad, derka, derka!

Black & Muslim

That seems immoral. I like it.

Copy & pasted- sending now.

Originally posted by Robtard
I noticed during the debates, she's had some work done to her face

Yeah, by me.

Sorry, I had to.

Not do the work, make the comment.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Yeah, by me.

Sorry, I had to.

Not do the work, make the comment.

-AC

Hey- nice username. You ever play the Sid Meier's game?

Also-- GROSS!!

Palin scares me.

A little humorous reprive:

I'm voting Republican-
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