United States Presidential Election 2008 - Official Discussion Thread

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You can't put a mod on ignore.

Doesn't matter though, cuz no trolling was going on.

Originally posted by BackFire
You can't put a mod on ignore.

Doesn't matter though, cuz no trolling was going on.

Thanks for the information.

IFILL: What promises -- given the events of the week, the bailout plan, all of this, what promises have you and your campaigns made to the American people that you're not going to be able to keep?

PALIN: Well, the nice thing about running with John McCain is I can assure you he doesn't tell one thing to one group and then turns around and tells something else to another group, including his plans that will make this bailout plan, this rescue plan, even better.

I want to go back to the energy plan, though, because this is -- this is an important one that Barack Obama, he voted for in '05...

BIDEN: Number two, with regard to bankruptcy now, Gwen, what we should be doing now -- and Barack Obama and I support it -- we should be allowing bankruptcy courts to be able to re-adjust not just the interest rate you're paying on your mortgage to be able to stay in your home, but be able to adjust the principal that you owe, the principal that you owe.

That would keep people in their homes, actually help banks by keeping it from going under. But John McCain, as I understand it -- I'm not sure of this, but I believe John McCain and the governor don't support that.

There are ways to help people now. And there -- ways that we're offering are not being supported by -- by the Bush administration nor do I believe by John McCain and Gov. Palin.

IFILL: Gov. Palin, is that so?

PALIN: That is not so, but because that's just a quick answer, I want to talk about, again, my record on energy versus your ticket's energy ticket, also.

I think that this is important to come back to, with that energy policy plan again that was voted for in '05.

When we talk about energy, we have to consider the need to do all that we can to allow this nation to become energy independent.

BIDEN: The bottom line though is, and I'm glad to hear the governor, I take her at her word, obviously, that she think there should be no civil rights distinction, none whatsoever, between a committed gay couple and a committed heterosexual couple. If that's the case, we really don't have a difference.

IFILL: Is that what your said?

PALIN: Your question to him was whether he supported gay marriage and my answer is the same as his and it is that I do not.

IFILL: Governor, nuclear Pakistan, unstable Pakistan, nuclear Iran? Which is the greater threat?

PALIN: Both are extremely dangerous, of course. And as for who coined that central war on terror being in Iraq, it was the Gen. Petraeus and al Qaeda, both leaders there and it's probably the only thing that they're ever going to agree on, but that it was a central war on terror is in Iraq. You don't have to believe me or John McCain on that. I would believe Petraeus and the leader of al Qaeda.

An armed, nuclear armed especially Iran is so extremely dangerous to consider. They cannot be allowed to acquire nuclear weapons period. Israel is in jeopardy of course when we're dealing with Ahmadinejad as a leader of Iran. Iran claiming that Israel as he termed it, a stinking corpse, a country that should be wiped off the face of the earth. Now a leader like Ahmadinejad who is not sane or stable when he says things like that is not one whom we can allow to acquire nuclear energy, nuclear weapons. Ahmadinejad, Kim Jong Il, the Castro brothers, others who are dangerous dictators are one that Barack Obama has said he would be willing to meet with without preconditions being met first.

And an issue like that taken up by a presidential candidate goes beyond naivete and goes beyond poor judgment. A statement that he made like that is downright dangerous because leaders like Ahmadinejad who would seek to acquire nuclear weapons and wipe off the face of the earth an ally like we have in Israel should not be met with without preconditions and diplomatic efforts being undertaken first.

Just a few snippets. Can't be bothered going through the whole transcript.

Wow. Apparently McCain is pulling out of Michigan, more or less conceding it to Obama.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/1008/McCain_pulling_out_of_Michigan.html?showall

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I got it.

*high five*

Lets make babies.

Originally posted by BackFire
Wow. Apparently McCain is pulling out of Michigan, more or less conceding it to Obama.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/1008/McCain_pulling_out_of_Michigan.html?showall

He should campaign in Florida and the Southwest, it's his best bet.

Holy balls. And you guys say that it isn't democratic to make people take a political proficiency test before the can earn a a "voter's registration"?

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/967925/

How is this country any good with these types of people? And I disliked the guy using the n-word because I can understand that most gangster of blacks better him.

Hahahaha.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Holy balls. And you guys say that it isn't democratic to make people take a political proficiency test before the can earn a a "voter's registration"?

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/967925/

How is this country any good with these types of people? And I disliked the guy using the n-word because I can understand that most gangster of blacks better him.

I miss the good old days, back when people weren't so against eugenics and forced sterilization. Time to re-try the literacy test discrimination.

[IRONY]

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
I miss the good old days, back when people weren't so against eugenics and forced sterilization. Time to re-try the literacy test discrimination.

[IRONY]

I agree

YouTube video

Originally posted by KidRock
I agree

You realize that I was 'bashing' on illiterate, uneducated white trash? I wasn't (and am not) being racist. The fact that Obama can energize youth to aspire to be more than they are is phenomenal, regardless of who wins the election.

YouTube video

You do realize that despite 26 years in the Senate the Republican nominee himself has surprisingly very few notable legislative accomplishments?

(Which of course will lead to you saying you don't support McCain, which inevitably leads to one wondering why your actions betray that statement.)

It was more of just pointing out the blind following Obama has garnered.

The "Screw George Bush, I wear Obama T-shirts, go against the evil republicans yet cannot name a single thing Obama has done, but he speaks real kewl" crowd.

Originally posted by KidRock
It was more of just pointing out the blind following Obama has garnered.

The "Screw George Bush, I wear Obama T-shirts, go against the evil republicans yet cannot name a single thing Obama has done, but he speaks real kewl" crowd.

What you don't realise is he has Biden there to help him whenever he's about to do something stupid, more than what I can say about Palin, or any other VP.

Originally posted by Bardock42
*high five*

Lets make babies.

You're on. I'll meet you in the attractive man thread.

Originally posted by lord xyz
What you don't realise is he has Biden there to help him whenever he's about to do something stupid, more than what I can say about Palin, or any other VP.

I dont see how that relates to my post.

Originally posted by KidRock
It was more of just pointing out the blind following Obama has garnered.

The "Screw George Bush, I wear Obama T-shirts, go against the evil republicans yet cannot name a single thing Obama has done, but he speaks real kewl" crowd.

Can you name a sinlge thing McCain has done without Google?

I've also seen people back in the day say "I'm voting for Bush because he's with God", talk about blind followers.

Originally posted by Robtard
Can you name a sinlge thing McCain has done without Google?

If was a die hard McCain supporter and preached about him and went on national TV to talk about him..I think I would know at least ONE thing he has done, unlike that other chimp on MSNBC.

Originally posted by Robtard

I've also seen people back in the day say "I'm voting for Bush because he's with God", talk about blind followers.

I wonder whats worse.. "he's with god" or "he IS god!"

Originally posted by KidRock
If was a die hard McCain supporter and preached about him and went on national TV to talk about him..I think I would know at least ONE thing he has done, unlike that other chimp on MSNBC.

I wonder whats worse.. "he's with god" or "he IS god!"

That's right, you don't support McCain, just hate Obama, how convenient.

More BS. No one thinks Obama is God or some sort of religious savior, while post 9/11, there were nut-jobs who thought Bush (including Bush himself) was on a mission from God to save America from evil (aka Islam). You can levy many a negative towards the Left, but religious-idiocy in regards to leaders is something the Right has a monopoly on.