Originally posted by sithsaber408it's been proven time and time again that it's a natural phenomenon.
Biology much?Homosexuality isn't natural, I don't care HOW much you try to pee on my leg and tell me it's raining.
The voters in CA (a fairly liberal place, I'm told) will agree with me when we vote in November, you'll see.
Originally posted by sithsaber408
Biology much?Homosexuality isn't natural, I don't care HOW much you try to pee on my leg and tell me it's raining.
The voters in CA (a fairly liberal place, I'm told) will agree with me when we vote in November, you'll see.
Define "natural"?
It probably could equally be argue that a man and woman of different colors isn't "natural" either.
Edit: (hypothetical) On a political side, what if it were proved that gay-marriage would continue to help the economy if allowed, would you still vote against it? If so, why?
Originally posted by sithsaber408This biologist says... you fail.
Biology much?Homosexuality isn't natural, I don't care HOW much you try to pee on my leg and tell me it's raining.
The voters in CA (a fairly liberal place, I'm told) will agree with me when we vote in November, you'll see.
Also regardless of whether or not homosexuality is "natural" the unsubstantiated assertion that they'd all raise horribly maladjusted children is still bigotry.
Originally posted by sithsaber408
Biology much?Homosexuality isn't natural, I don't care HOW much you try to pee on my leg and tell me it's raining.
The voters in CA (a fairly liberal place, I'm told) will agree with me when we vote in November, you'll see.
It happens in nature, naturally.
So, it's natural.
And so does animals that fling feces and eat their mates, yet we don't practice those things or refer to them as "natural" for human beings, though they occur in nature..do we?
Male parts join with female parts and make more people.
THERE'S your biology. Boiled down to the most basic principle of course, but still.
ANYTHING else, is a person behaving in a way that is contrary to their bodies inherent, natural functions.
And they have the right to ignore those biological functions, of course.
But don't try to force me to say that it's normal.
Originally posted by sithsaber408
And so does animals that fling feces and eat their mates, yet we don't practice those things or refer to them as "natural" for human beings, though they occur in nature..do we?Male parts join with female parts and make more people.
THERE'S your biology. Boiled down to the most basic principle of course, but still.
ANYTHING else, is a person behaving in a way that is contrary to their bodies inherent, natural functions.
And they have the right to ignore those biological functions, of course.
But don't try to force me to say that it's normal.
The minute your prove that it's biologically unnatural, is the minute I eat my large collection of hats.
Not forcing you to say anything. Normal or not, it's meaningless. It's not harmful is all that matters.
Silly analogy there with the poop throwing. Human beings don't do it, it's not in their nature nor is it an impulse for people. Homosexuality is an impulse for homosexuals, following their own attraction. Nothing more natural in the world. You not liking it has nothing to do with whether or not it's natural, though. You aren't fooling anyone. Religion isn't natural, yet you subscribe to it.
Point is, natural or not, it's irrelevant. Alot of things occur in our society that aren't natural, yet they aren't bad. And alot of things occur that are natural and are bad. It's a pointless way to condemn something, because it's irrelevant to whether or not it should be accepted.
Originally posted by sithsaber408
And so does animals that fling feces and eat their mates, yet we don't practice those things or refer to them as "natural" for human beings, though they occur in nature..do we?Male parts join with female parts and make more people.
THERE'S your biology. Boiled down to the most basic principle of course, but still.
ANYTHING else, is a person behaving in a way that is contrary to their bodies inherent, natural functions.
And they have the right to ignore those biological functions, of course.
But don't try to force me to say that it's normal.
That doesn't make it "unnatural" for people though, does it (I'm happy to hear a valid reason as to how it isn't natural)? Killing is natural, yet it is for the most part out allowed in society.
If it were that simple, the 'P goes into V and it produces a B' bit, then do you only have sex with your wife in order to produce children?
Why do you you think you should have the power to deny them (the gay/biology deniers) something in which you partake yourself?
Again, define normal?
Oh:
Originally posted by Robtard?
Edit: (hypothetical) On a political side, what if it were proved that gay-marriage would continue to help the economy if allowed, would you still vote against it? If so, why?
Originally posted by sithsaber408Wow. What a fantastic characteristic whob response.
And so does animals that fling feces and eat their mates, yet we don't practice those things or refer to them as "natural" for human beings, though they occur in nature..do we?Male parts join with female parts and make more people.
THERE'S your biology. Boiled down to the most basic principle of course, but still.
ANYTHING else, is a person behaving in a way that is contrary to their bodies inherent, natural functions.
And they have the right to ignore those biological functions, of course.
But don't try to force me to say that it's normal.
When pressed on your unsubstantiated claim that it's "not natural" you go to some strawman on "flinging feces." And then eventually land upon your real rationale. That subjectively to you it's "not normal" and therefore subjectively to you it's "wrong." This following your unsubstantiated claim that children of gay or lesbian parents will all end up in therapy inexplicably because their parents teach them about human reproduction.
This despite that the APA has an page detailing that as far as current social psych research is concerned that's just bullshit bigotry. The irony being that the only harm that's likely to come from a kid having gay or lesbian parents is that they may encounter bigots (such as yourself) who may harass them for having homosexual parents.
Originally posted by sithsaber408
Biology much?Homosexuality isn't natural, I don't care HOW much you try to pee on my leg and tell me it's raining.
The voters in CA (a fairly liberal place, I'm told) will agree with me when we vote in November, you'll see.
No you won't. You won't see it at all.
The fact that you point at biology when there are numerous products in the heterosexual world that support the failing straight lebido as proof of your perspective illustrates how off target you are. Actually, that you akin homosexuality to a dog pissing on the leg of an unreceptive master is much more telling that your comments on supposedly natural lubrication.
In fact, the only outcome I can assume is that you haven't spent much time pleasing your own wife. I'm one of those ******* you talk so much about and natural liquids weren't much of a deciding factor in my relations with them. Next thing we know, you'll be claiming the banana is the evolutionist's nightmare. Grow the **** up.
I don't feel like starting a new thread for the convention, so I'm just going to post a handful of videos of the speakers.
Day 1
Sen. Ted Kennedy (MA)
YouTube video
Republican Former Rep. Jim Leach
YouTube video
Michelle Obama
YouTube video
Day 2
Gov. Janet Napolitano (AZ)
YouTube video
Rep. Dennis Kucinich (OH)
YouTube video
Gov. Kathleen Sebelius (KS)
YouTube video
Gov. Brian Schweitzer (MT)
YouTube video
Keynote Address Fmr. Gov. Mark Warner (VA)
YouTube video
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (NY)
YouTube video
figuratively seeing right through a politician.
Last night my states' Governor Deval Patrick was on and so was Hilary Clinton and my senses didn't even have to kick into high gear when they came on. The nerve of some of these politicians. How stupid do they think we are?....(sigh)
Both Clinton and Patrick made me chuckle with how bold they were with what they were talking about when they were basically putting all the blame on elitists and how bad they were, yet they're elitists (of the same yarn) themselves, while fabulously maneuvering (almost) everyone into thinking that they're not (those very same) elitists when they clearly are. (especially when it comes to some of these loophole finding, unethical, tax dodging corporations.) They both sleep with union-busting lobbyists every night. People like them are the way they are because people let them be that way. I believe politicians, corporations and governments are only a strong as people make it. Why do you think the a (seemingly) plead and cater to us. And beg us for our service (or money) ?
Like Hilary (and Deval) give a fcuk about the common worker, healthcare, and the foreclosure and credit crisis. Their families aren’t being affected, what do they care. (I liked McCain anti-Obama Hillary ad he put up right, I think, before or after her speech last night that contradicted everything she said about Obama last night @ the DNC. It was funny as hell.) But gimme a break. What has she done for N.Y. beside become the newest Yankee fan and using the State only as a stepping stone to enter a race she lost. And Deval hasn't’t done anything in Mass. but by a luxury car and $15,000 drapes for his office windows @ taxpayers’ expense, it was all over the papers. His Mass. nickname is Cadillac Deval (seriously). And he gets bullied around. He and mostly every adult in the state wanted a Casino here and our House Speaker said no and Deval turned tail.