Originally posted by lord xyz
No, we British don'thave a dream, like you. Mostly because we're awake.I'm just saying there are factors you don't know, the story of your uncle sounds like the book "An Inspector Calls".
Oh God, you people with your "We British" actually make me sick. Britain's a ****ing shit hole, but for some reason you have some odd patriotic duty to group all people from this absolute hole into a category of seemingly noble people, who love their country, but hate everywhere else.
Originally posted by Strangelove
um, why would it? That's just looking at taxes.
Because it's another part of Obama's tax plan.
He plans on being able to pay for certain things and also to guarantee those tax cuts by increasing tax on businesses.
Which as I've stated, would be bad for the average consumers.
Originally posted by sithsaber408
Because it's another part of Obama's tax plan.He plans on being able to pay for certain things and also to guarantee those tax cuts by increasing tax on businesses.
Which as I've stated, would be bad for the average consumers.
You're also over simplifying it. Sure the increase (or part of) will be passed onto the consumer in some areas, but there is a limit into how high a gallon of milk is going to cost.
Originally posted by RobtardSure you say that now, just wait 'til you go to the supermarket to find milk on special at $1,000 a gallon...
You're also over simplifying it. Sure the increase (or part of) will be passed onto the consumer in some areas, but there is a limit into how high a gallon of milk is going to cost.
Originally posted by sithsaber408Trying to including perceived "costs" of a candidate's tax plans is an exercise in demagoguery. How does McCain plan to pay for the federal government when he's cutting taxes across the board?
Because it's another part of Obama's tax plan.He plans on being able to pay for certain things and also to guarantee those tax cuts by increasing tax on businesses.
Which as I've stated, would be bad for the average consumers.
Originally posted by StrangeloveThe costs of their tax plans aren't that significantly different; just the distribution. So the same question could easily be asked of Obama.
Trying to including perceived "costs" of a candidate's tax plans is an exercise in demagoguery. How does McCain plan to pay for the federal government when he's cutting taxes across the board?
Originally posted by StrangeloveYour GDP is roughly $13 trillion/annum. Your Federal budget is approximately $3 trillion/annum.
I don't know exact figures, but that's a pretty fair estimate.
Your figure is roughly $3.6 trillion/annum or 120% of your Federal budget or 30% of your GDP...
Really?
Common sense should just make you see that's off. There seems to be a swallowing of talking points on both sides.
As far as I'm aware the grand total amounts to somewhere along the lines of $600 billion. Which is of course a huge amount in itself. But still only accounts for a reduction in discretionary spending of around $100-120 billion dollars.
Which brings us back to that both tax policies will either require other large budget cuts or further increases in your national debt. And as far as I can tell it will likely be the latter.
I.e. as I said earlier, both plans seem crap, Obama's is just less crap.