United States Presidential Election 2008 - Official Discussion Thread

Started by Shakyamunison143 pages

Originally posted by BackFire
Watch the interviews.

Thinking she's bad isn't BS, it's based on her not knowing what she's talking about during interviews.

I will watch the debate, and that will tell me what I need to know.

You can't get the truth from the media, and that includes both left and right.

I'm interested in how you'll spin this video so that it suddeny doesn't address fire fighters and police officers, but a civilian military force, as you've presented it. Far be it for a democrat to think that the National Guard should be there when it's nation needs it. I'm sure the National Guard is always there when obviously failed and dangerous policies might threaten the weekend warrior's dedication to his country when that dedication might involve more than just showing up, getting a subsidized pay check and getting a tatoo. How could the citizens of the nation suddenly second guess their life-long desire to join the marines or the army when they realize they are nothing more than fodder for an illegitimate war? And, just to follow up, I asked for "in context" quotes.

Of course you don't support Palin. Even you realize she's a bigger joke than the support you've invested in this party for the last decade. It's because you support shit and window dressing, once you get right down to it. You support what ever is placed in front of you. You have no compunction or consideration for their position, or lack there of, or lack of knowledge there of, or lack of even a basic ability to bullshit there of. You've already said that you think John McCain isn't fanatical enough for your honest support. I already knew you thought Palin was a bimbo, but that realization is accompanied by the understanding that you have spent the last 8 years supporting Bush. You have these negative things to say about Obama, but you're willing to toss your hat into a fight where the guy you're supporting fails to meet your own extreme expectations. You're still waiting to get your fix from your own canidate. Face it, you've spent the last 8 years supporting a guy who's heir-apparent dismally fails to meet your demands but you're supporting him anyway because he's NOT the guy you've spent all those years supporting. The last 8 years might have meant something to you, but to the rest of the world they've been a joke. Now, you're trying to pull your opinion out of a fire you started yourself by selling the match as a maverick. You've been so right for the last 8 years, your own party has to sell itself as something totally different from what it has already shown us it is....and you swallow it. It's kind of like joining KMC and chosing the name you did, only to find out 5 years later your hero doesn't like Bush and "loves Obama". Even your heroes have abandoned you...but you're still arguing with them.

Originally posted by KidRock
Ask Barack Obama..everything I have said were his exact words.

*waits patiently as the liberals of the board immediatly change their mind and support this civilian defense force*

Considering you didn't parse what he said, as you tend to do, or either flat out lie, I don't agree with it. That's okay though, as I don't have to agree with 100% of any candidates stances.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I will watch the debate, and that will tell me what I need to know.

You can't get the truth from the media, and that includes both left and right.

What about watching her, speaking out of her own mouth? Certainly, that isn't Left-media bias, is it?

"Putin rears his head and comes into the airspace of the United States of America, where, where do they go, it's Alaska, it's just right over the border. It is from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that, that an eye is being keep on this very power nation, Russia because they are right there, they are right next to our state."

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I will watch the debate, and that will tell me what I need to know.

You can't get the truth from the media, and that includes both left and right.

What are you talking about?

These are things SHE's said. That came out of her own mouth, voluntarily. Has shit to do with the media.

Originally posted by BackFire
Has shit to do with the media.

I think it's really unfair of you to judge a candidate by the words that come out of her own mouth. Her "Verbage" shouldn't be used as a measuring stick to judge her position on any number of issues. Can you see Russia from your sitting room? I didn't think so.

Originally posted by Devil King
I think it's really unfair of you to judge a candidate by the words that come out of her own mouth. Her "Verbage" shouldn't be used as a measuring stick to judge her position on any number of issues. Can you see Russia from your sitting room? I didn't think so.

I've actually been to the Middle East, maybe I should be VP.

I can see the moon from my backyard.

Guess I can be an astronaut now.

I live near a hospital.

Guess I can be a doctor now.

Originally posted by Robtard
I've actually been to the Middle East, maybe I should be VP.

Sadly, I doubt you were very much further down the list of candidates than was Frau Palin.

That's not meant to be an insult, just a realistic observation. There couldn't possibly be too many names that populate the list between your own and Sarah's. She just had a much slimmer vagina and her own sash.

And she could play the flute, which is just an object away from sucking cock.

Considering she's pushed out five children, I'd take the Pepsi-Challenge that my vagina is indeed the slimmer of the two. Alas, I'm one of those dirty-immigrants and not a native born Americano, so I'm automatically disqualified.

Originally posted by Robtard
Considering she's pushed out five children, I'd take the Pepsi-Challenge that my vagina is indeed the slimmer of the two. Alas, I'm one of those dirty-immigrants and not a native born Americano, so I'm automatically disqualified.

She didn't push them out. She got her vaginal muscle tone from holding them in. The flight back to Alaska from Texas, after a meeting of oil lobbyists, is a long one when your water has already broken.

Really? I didn't know you were a foreigner that Frau Palin has spent so long watching from her living room window. I hope, at least, that you're with us and not the terrsts.

(By the way, thanks for taking the jobs of my fellow, true Americans.)

Originally posted by BackFire
I can see the moon from my backyard.

Guess I can be an astronaut now.

I live near a hospital.

Guess I can be a doctor now.

The first one was great. Second one lessened my appreciation of the first.

538.com's founder Nate Silver accusing RealClearPolitics of a Republican bias in their poll averages.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/09/real-credibility-problems.html

Guess I was right to abandon it.

Originally posted by BackFire
What are you talking about?

These are things SHE's said. That came out of her own mouth, voluntarily. Has shit to do with the media.

Did you watch Obama with Bill O'reilly? IMO Bill made Obama look like an ass. My point is that a skilled interviewer can make anyone look like an ass, and it as no barring on reality.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Did you watch Obama with Bill O'reilly? IMO Bill made Obama look like an ass. My point is that a skilled interviewer can make anyone look like an ass, and it as no barring on reality.
Since your point implies that Bill O'Reilly is a skilled interviewer I feel alright disregarding it.

Originally posted by Robtard
What about watching her, speaking out of her own mouth? Certainly, that isn't Left-media bias, is it?

Did I specify Left-media bias? I said: "You can't get the truth from the media, and that includes both left and right." Are you admitting that there is a Left-media bias?

How can you not trust her own mouth? It's not as if there's some sort of editing technique like in the simpsons.

Originally posted by lord xyz
How can you not trust her own mouth? It's not as if there's some sort of editing technique like in the simpsons.

They do edit, and the questions are designed to make a person look bad. It's done all the time.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
They do edit, and the questions are designed to make a person look bad. It's done all the time.
But what about unedited speeches?

[edit] Someone quote or say it themsleves please, the **** doesn't like my opposition to his idiocy.

lol

poor sarah palin, such a victim of media "gotcha" moments

what a joke