in her defense, she was recently asked about this and said something closer to "humans might be responsible"
I'd say she tried to dodge the question, potentially post a video, but I'd hate to be accused of using the biased media representation of her position. I mean, she was answering a serious question, not something that should be valid in making judgement of her character.
EDIT:
"It doesn't matter what caused it"
quite literally promoting band-aid comprehension of the issue. Oh, wait, sorry, I'll now go test the video for editing and computer graphics. For all we know, that might not be Sarah Palin, but an android which never had "Global Warming" program rhetoric installed.
Originally posted by lord xyz
I heard a pretty good joke on Mock the Week."Sarah Palin has said humans don't cause global warming. Even George Bush has admitted humans have an effect on global climate change. It must take some sort of skill to make George Bush look intellectually superior."
However, global warming is also taking place on Mars. The truth is somewhere in the middle. The sun maybe causing global warming, but we are making the problem worse.
Now you can take what I just said, and make it look however you wish.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
...and Obama ...and McCain ...and Biden. Please remember there is a corrupt left and right wing media in this country.
I was actually being sarcastic
while I would agree all 4 of them are victims of gotcha moments, none have tried to ban books. None have tried to make women pay for abortion kits. None have issues like roads and bridges to nowhere. None pray for oil pipelines, and I think even McCain stops short of saying God wants us in Iraq. ****, even McCain had to go on TV with her to correct the "we should invade Pakistan" "gaffe".
Her rhetoric is innane, she can't come up with anything remotely coherent when put on the spot.
Like, I get what you are saying, but in this case it is akin to "Anne Coulter is a victim of media bias". She may be, but her being an idiot doesn't help
Originally posted by inimalist
I was actually being sarcasticwhile I would agree all 4 of them are victims of gotcha moments, none have tried to ban books. None have tried to make women pay for abortion kits. None have issues like roads and bridges to nowhere. None pray for oil pipelines, and I think even McCain stops short of saying God wants us in Iraq. ****, even McCain had to go on TV with her to correct the "we should invade Pakistan" "gaffe".
Her rhetoric is innane, she can't come up with anything remotely coherent when put on the spot.
Like, I get what you are saying, but in this case it is akin to "Anne Coulter is a victim of media bias". She may be, but her being an idiot doesn't help
However, everything you just said was told to you by people who want to manipulate you. I suggest you don't believe any of it until you see a live debate. With today's technology you cannot believe what you see on the news.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What is an Internet documentary?Go to the NASA site and look up information on the polar caps melting on Mars. If the polar caps are melting on Mars, then what is causing that?
lol, OMG, correlation IS causation
oh, and cheeky, whats an internet documentary? oh silly me. (http://www.ofcomswindlecomplaint.net/FullComplaint/)
http://www.livescience.com/environment/070312_solarsys_warming.html
While evidence suggests fluctuations in solar activity can affect climate on Earth, and that it has done so in the past, the majority of climate scientists and astrophysicists agree that the sun is not to blame for the current and historically sudden uptick in global temperatures on Earth, which seems to be mostly a mess created by our own species....
“Man-made greenhouse warming has [made a] small contribution [to] the warming on Earth in recent years, but [it] cannot compete with the increase in solar irradiance,” Abdussamatov told LiveScience in an email interview last week. “The considerable heating and cooling on the Earth and on Mars always will be practically parallel."
But Abdussamatov’s critics say the Red Planet’s recent thawing is more likely due to natural variations in the planet’s orbit and tilt. On Earth, these wobbles, known as Milankovitch cycles, are thought to contribute to the onset and disappearance ice ages.
“It’s believed that what drives climate change on Mars are orbital variations,” said Jeffrey Plaut, a project scientist for NASA’s Mars Odyssey mission. “The Earth also goes through orbital variations similar to that of Mars.”
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“I think it is an intriguing coincidence that warming trends have been observed on a number of very diverse planetary bodies in our solar system,” Peiser said in an email interview. “Perhaps this is just a fluke.”
In fact, scientists have alternative explanations for the anomalous warming on each of these other planetary bodies.
The warming on Triton, for example, could be the result of an extreme southern summer on the moon, a season that occurs every few hundred years, as well as possible changes in the makeup of surface ice that caused it to absorb more of the Sun’s heat.
Researchers credited Pluto’s warming to possible eruptive activity and a delayed thawing from its last close approach to the Sun in 1989.
And the recent storm activity on Jupiter is being blamed on a recurring climatic cycle that churns up material from the gas giant’s interior and lofts it to the surface, where it is heated by the Sun.
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The radiation output of the Sun does fluctuate over the course of its 11-year solar cycle. But the change is only about one-tenth of 1 percent—not substantial enough to affect Earth’s climate in dramatic ways, and certainly not enough to be the sole culprit of our planet’s current warming trend, scientists say.
“The small measured changes in solar output and variations from one decade to the next are only on the order of a fraction of a percent, and if you do the calculations not even large enough to really provide a detectable signal in the surface temperature record,” said Penn State meteorologist Michael Mann.
The link between solar activity and global warming is just another scapegoat for human-caused warming, Mann told LiveScience.
“Solar activity continues to be one of the last bastions of contrarians,” Mann said. “People who don’t accept the existence of anthropogenic climate change still try to point to solar activity.”
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This is not to say that solar fluctuations never influence Earth’s climate in substantial ways. During a 75-year period beginning in 1645, astronomers detected almost no sunspot activity on the Sun. Called the “Maunder Minimum,” this event coincided with the coldest part of the Little Ice Age, a 350-year cold spell that gripped much of Europe and North America.
Recent studies have cast doubt on this relationship, however. New estimates of the total change in the brightness of the Sun during the Maunder Minimum suggest it was only fractions of a percent, and perhaps not enough to create the global cooling commonly attributed to it.
Lets remember, this is from last year, and studies show global warming occuring faster than the most dire estimates of anthroogenic origin.
I'd like it if you could show me where NASA thinks global warming is solar? One of NASA's top scientists has been talking about anthropogenic global warming since before Clinton, and NASA has been one of the most critical bodies over Bush's anti-science programs.
Originally posted by inimalist
lol, OMG, correlation [b]IS causationoh, and cheeky, whats an internet documentary? oh silly me. (http://www.ofcomswindlecomplaint.net/FullComplaint/)
http://www.livescience.com/environment/070312_solarsys_warming.html
Lets remember, this is from last year, and studies show global warming occuring faster than the most dire estimates of anthroogenic origin.
I'd like it if you could show me where NASA thinks global warming is solar? One of NASA's top scientists has been talking about anthropogenic global warming since before Clinton, and NASA has been one of the most critical bodies over Bush's anti-science programs. [/B]
Here is the example I was hoping for. Do you see how you changed what I said? 😉
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
However, everything you just said was told to you by people who want to manipulate you.
right, because as an individual I am 100% incapable of filtering what media I consume.
Like, even if we assume that is true (although it makes marked assumptions about the media I consume which would not hold up, but I'll give it to you), and lets assume I only listen to media that I agree with (which is also untrue), it isn't an argument against anything that I listed.
Asking to ban books, no matter what slant, disqualifies someone from political office in my opinon. Case closed. Unless you are presenting the fact that it never happened (which even Palin doesn't say), it is pretty cut and dry. Same with women being forced to buy rape kits.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I suggest you don't believe any of it until you see a live debate.
awww, a suggestion, consider it noted
I think a live debate is a much worse way to get an opinion of her, simply because she will have talking points that she can hit over and over. American political debates are lame and pretty much scripted. Anyone can read a prompter.
The fact she can't give straight answers to voters when they ask questions at campaign rallies is much more telling to me.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
With today's technology you cannot believe what you see on the news.
LOL
so it was a hologram that was being interviewed above?
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Here is the example I was hoping for. Do you see how you changed what I said? 😉
what did I miss?
I'll gladly expand on any point you wish
However, you asked "If the polar caps are melting on Mars, then what is causing that?"
assumin that has any relevance to what we are talking about, you are insinuating that because other planets are warming, there is a common cause for both. If not, I provided an answer to the question.
Originally posted by inimalist
what did I miss?I'll gladly expand on any point you wish
However, you asked "If the polar caps are melting on Mars, then what is causing that?"
assumin that has any relevance to what we are talking about, you are insinuating that because other planets are warming, there is a common cause for both. If not, I provided an answer to the question.
See, you are still not getting it. You are going off on something to do with planets, and that is not the point.
You only know what you have been told. I also only know what I have been told. The difference between us is that you believe some of it, where as I don't believe most of it.
When I tell you that people edit things, why do you go to holograms? That is just a stupid tactic that only blinds you to what I am saying.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
See, you are still not getting it. You are going off on something to do with planets, and that is not the point.
You said:
"The sun may be causing global warming"
I asked you for evidence
you said NASA had information about ice caps on mars melting, insinuating that there is a common cause for mars ice caps melting and earth's warming. You then asked how the ice caps on mars could be melting
the point is that you are wrong. Warming on mars is occuring for different reasons (which are explained in what I posted) than the Earth.
specifically tell me what I am missing, because I'm not the one making the point that Sarah Palin is informed about global warming. Maybe it is that both of you aren't?
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You only know what you have been told. I also only know what I have been told. The difference between us is that you believe some of it, where as I don't believe most of it.
oh, wise one, please share your skepticism with me. My standards of evidence are oh so low, and I am so terribly uninformed about these things.
If all you want to do is tell me how much better you are at reading the media you are than everyone else, sure, but most people masterbate in private
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
When I tell you that people edit things, why do you go to holograms? That is just a stupid tactic that only blinds you to what I am saying.
no, I get that you are saying editing. Explain to me, then, how her making rape victims pay for test kits is an editing issue, and how her calling herself a feminist isn't a slap in the face to all women?
or was that just them cut and pasting audio files together?
Originally posted by inimalist
You said:"The sun may be causing global warming"
I asked you for evidence
you said NASA had information about ice caps on mars melting, insinuating that there is a common cause for mars ice caps melting and earth's warming. You then asked how the ice caps on mars could be melting
the point is that you are wrong. Warming on mars is occuring for different reasons (which are explained in what I posted) than the Earth.
specifically tell me what I am missing, because I'm not the one making the point that Sarah Palin is informed about global warming. Maybe it is that both of you aren't?
oh, wise one, please share your skepticism with me. My standards of evidence are oh so low, and I am so terribly uninformed about these things.
If all you want to do is tell me how much better you are at reading the media you are than everyone else, sure, but most people masterbate in private
no, I get that you are saying editing. Explain to me, then, how her making rape victims pay for test kits is an editing issue, and how her calling herself a feminist isn't a slap in the face to all women?
or was that just them cut and pasting audio files together?
Let me ask you a question: Am I a Palin supporter?
Originally posted by ShakyamunisonAre you such a skeptic that you deny the ground beneath you?
However, everything you just said was told to you by people who want to manipulate you. I suggest you don't believe any of it until you see a live debate. With today's technology you cannot believe what you see on the news.
We are currently losing tons of jobs to outsourcing overseas.
How do we solve this and keep businesses from leaving? Keep their costs low here in the states?
Sounds like it could work..or we can raise the corporate tax so its costs more.
http://www.usatoday.com/money/2006-08-02-deficit-usat_x.htm
These obligations are so large and are growing so fast that budget surpluses of the late 1990s actually were deficits when the costs are included.
The Clinton administration reported a surplus of $559 billion in its final four budget years. The audited numbers showed a deficit of $484 billion.
Originally posted by KidRockOr, we could continue the Bush policy (like McCain wants) put an absolute out of touch inexperience fool in charge of the economy who'll most likely give tax cuts to the rich, (which is what Bush did).
We are currently losing tons of jobs to outsourcing overseas.How do we solve this and keep businesses from leaving? Keep their costs low here in the states?
Sounds like it could work..or we can raise the corporate tax so its costs more.
http://www.usatoday.com/money/2006-08-02-deficit-usat_x.htm
[B]These obligations are so large and are growing so fast that budget surpluses of the late 1990s actually were deficits when the costs are included.
The Clinton administration reported a surplus of $559 billion in its final four budget years. The audited numbers showed a deficit of $484 billion. [/B]