Mace vs Darth Revan (Takes Place on Malachor V)

did you not read my post. The planet in no way stated that it puts a force user on a siddious level which is what a sith HAS to be in order to be a threat to mace.

my point of reference for mace's abilities is that he beat siddious.
even nick gillard said that mace was a level 9 swordsman who is up there with yoda and siddious.

nobody knows what the heck levels revan or malak were because it VARIES FROM GAMEPLAY. again, revan could just be a good grenador and a mediocre swordsman.

ok so its stated that malachor boosts a darksider. how? a physical strength boost? a morale boost? a white blood cell boost?

the story says revan is powerful. big deal.
terms like {powerful, immense, unstopable, magnificent} are all relative.
asajj ventress was powerful, was he on her level?
padawan anakin was poweful, is he on his level?

we dont know enough about him.

also, with malachor/starforge whatever.......

if as a sith im of asajj quality, does it's boost raise me to dooku quality or if im a bane does it raise me to a kun or a siddious.

we dont know. what we also dont know is if the dark side boost deals in powers of persuasion, battle meditation, what?

the boost is too unknown to quantify.

but we have seen mace beat the emporor on the big screen so we know at least in terms of swords that he is above the sith as of ROTS.

I think I'm going to change my opinion on this duel and give it Revan due to the circumstance of this particular duel.

Originally posted by Man of Christ
did you not read my post. The planet in no way stated that it puts a force user on a siddious level which is what a sith HAS to be in order to be a threat to mace.

In fairness, Darth Revan is one of the closest sith in both knowledge/power in the force to ROTS Sidious without having to be on Malchor V.

my point of reference for mace's abilities is that he beat siddious.

also, with malachor/starforge whatever

There is a substantial difference between these to places and how Revan used the star forge.

if im a bane does it raise me to a kun or a siddious.

he boost is too unknown to quantify.

I like Traya's quote on the place.

"There is a place in the galaxy where the dark side of the Force runs strong. It is something of the Sith, but it was fueled by war. It corrupts all that walks on its surface—drowns them in the power of the dark side . It corrupts all life, and it feeds on death."

Originally posted by Man of Christ
did you not read my post. The planet in no way stated that it puts a force user on a siddious level which is what a sith HAS to be in order to be a threat to mace.

my point of reference for mace's abilities is that he beat siddious.
even nick gillard said that mace was a level 9 swordsman who is up there with yoda and siddious.

nobody knows what the heck levels revan or malak were because it VARIES FROM GAMEPLAY. again, revan could just be a good grenador and a mediocre swordsman.

ok so its stated that malachor boosts a darksider. how? a physical strength boost? a morale boost? a white blood cell boost?

the story says revan is powerful. big deal.
terms like {powerful, immense, unstopable, magnificent} are all relative.
asajj ventress was powerful, was he on her level?
padawan anakin was poweful, is he on his level?

we dont know enough about him.

also, with malachor/starforge whatever.......

if as a sith im of asajj quality, does it's boost raise me to dooku quality or if im a bane does it raise me to a kun or a siddious.

we dont know. what we also dont know is if the dark side boost deals in powers of persuasion, battle meditation, what?

the boost is too unknown to quantify.

but we have seen mace beat the emporor on the big screen so we know at least in terms of swords that he is above the sith as of ROTS.

Man of Christ what are you talking about? First thing stop addressing what it does to a dark user and start addressing what it does to a light user. Anakin was powerful in force potential but never reach what he could have been and never got to a certain level as a jedi.

Stop trying to pick little things or words and make them into something. I could easily turn your comments against Mace. Revan reach a certain level, Sith Lord. Mace reached a certain level, second to Yoda amongst all the Jedi of PT era. You can compare the two. Stop bring in other people who never reached a certain level.

Mace defeated Sidious in a saber battle that is it. We do not know what would have happen if Anakin never appeared and Mace actually tried to kill Sidious .

This fight will not just include sabers but force. Revan definitely has the advantage there.

why? because of what you see him do in the video game?

Originally posted by Man of Christ
why? because of what you see him do in the video game?

I am with the wife so my response won't be quick.

Simply put because as the story of Revan states he is full of knowlege of dark side techniques and light side. Thus Revan would not be shock at light side techniques thrown his way and would have the plant of dark energies to disturb Mace enough to get the win.

Also please remember Revan is an intelligent fighter and a strategist. He would not rush Mace like a fool but would use the plant, the dark energies and his surroundings to his advantage.

sabers goes to mace no matter what
force goes to Revan no matter where they are
all out hard to say... Revan 6 out of 10 but only because of malachor

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Isn't Kreia a fallble third party character who's been proven to have a hard on for Revan?

Man of Christ what are you talking about? First thing stop addressing what it does to a dark user and start addressing what it does to a light user.

I seem to remember that on Djun, or whatever, a place powerful in the darkside, Obi-wan felt really bad, like he was moving underwater or something.

Originally posted by Kotor3
I am with the wife so my response won't be quick.

Simply put because as the story of Revan states he is full of knowledge of dark side techniques and light side. Thus Revan would not be shock at light side techniques thrown his way and would have the plant of dark energies to disturb Mace enough to get the win.

Revan did not retrieve all of his memories of the past. Bastilla says "your memories of your former self are too badly damaged to ever recover your personality fully" (that's close, if not verbatim). What proof other than gameplay (taking force choke at lv. 12 etc.) do you have that Revan didn't reject the dark side fully even after the leviathan? What makes you think that he continued to know all of his DS powers?

Originally posted by Jbill311
What makes you think that he continued to know all of his DS powers?

Because this is "Darth Revan", not the base current one.

Thank you- i promise to learn how to read some day.