Originally posted by Bardock42
Hey, I am the first to admit I don't know stuff about boring 2nd world countries, but I do know that the Nato didn't brainwash me and that the "western" media is not trying to paint Russia as the bad guy (I happen to know that, since I do get my information from the Western media...and...well...they don't), so, if some idiot spews that nonsense, I'll comment.
Basically my stance also.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Where the hell did you get this ridiculous claim of Russians mourning USSR from? Did NATO tell you to say that?
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Russia has NO imperialistic tendencies.
Russia has no Imperialistic urges.
This is The face of Imperialism:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/may/23/politics.foreignpolicy
and
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jul/01/humanrights.usforeignpolicy
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
It is ''from light'' you are correct. I translated it litraly, which would be son of light. Im crap at grammar.I didn't know about Kalish. That is an excellent one. And I like how you made the rest into a nationality.
I was trying to figure out what it was - but I failed.
Karim - generous. (im not sure if the gender is correct in the rest, but never mind 😛)
lol, I'm still just learning too, so my vocab and grammar are terrible. Like, I can read your sig, but I have no clue at all what it means (Other than to guess it says something about Serbia?) EDIT: whoops, and you changed it to a Saddam quote, very nice 🙂
Are Mila and Mira people?
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
And in case you forgot to read what the person preciously wrote, they actually said that Russians probably thought Stalin was greatest ''Russian leader''. He was NOT Russian, but Georgian.
The comment has nothing to do with invasion, it is basic historical knowledge.
No, it is petty semantics on your part. He was the leader OF RUSSIA, as so called by his contempories at the time. Such an adolescent form of arguing is beneath you and should shame you, and exposes what an aggressive, empty facade this inane ranvng of yours is.
Your response to Melkor- who I am willing to bet a large amount knows a HELL of a lot more about the region than you do- shows utter ignorance. What'sd the source for the fact that there is a groundswell of nostalgia for the USSR and Stalin? NATO, you say (in one of the most brainless accusations I have ever seen around here)? It's frigging Pravda that reported that, not to mention plenty of documentaries and news reports about the issue.
I have to echo Bardock's words. What the hell is wrong with you, Lil? You are turning into a ranting mouthpiece for the Kremlin. Sure, Georgia has made an ass of itself and is not a pleasant regime but that's no damn excuse for Russia to blast in like it was still the 50s when they could enforce their will by mass invasion- especially after the only reason that this could POSSIBLY be said to relate to their security is because of their intentional dissemnination of Russian passports into the country.
I am not sure quite why you have this hard-on for Putin. He's an outdated thug and his atittude will cause a crash and burn- Russia can't sustain this kind of idiocy.
Don't even think about telling me I am prey to bias media, either.
Incidentally- Russia WAS a defeated nation. The USSR was an evil nation that fell apart under the weight of its own inadequacy and the strain of a people it had oppressed for so long that it could no longer hold back. The likes of Putin think the answer is to wind back the clock. History will forget them.
It appears that there is a cease fire at this time. It seems Russia was making a retaliation for the killing of more than 2,000 people in Georgia. It all seems like there was bad blood between these two and just something was going to snap at some point. Hopefully this will finally come to an end.
Time for a trip to the UN. Everyone grab their paperwork and present their cases.
ill bitchiness, first of all, there were a lot of polls done that show that many Russians have certain nostalgia towards ZSRR. And Putin himself called the split of ZSRR a tragedy. I read stuff from different sources, and know quite a lot about what Russia was doing to its neighbours for the last couple of centuries, so why do you imply that this is NATO propaganda? One of the major reasons middle and eastern european countries joined or want to join NATO is fear of Russia and resurgence of ts imperialism- for example they use of Gazprom and gas transit to put pressure on countries like Ukraine or Belarus. And it doesn`t matter what ethnicity Stalin was in specific- he repreesented the worst of both communism and Soviet/Russian imperialism. Would you say that Hitler wasn`t German leader because he was from Austria?
These issues are very complicated of course- it seems Georgian leadership made some major mistakes. But I refuse to discuss with you if you continue with such agressive/hysterical way.
Originally posted by chithappens
Not to be an ass, but when has the UN done anything effective?
Originally posted by Bardock42
I think he meant effective as in...having a noticeable effect...not wasting a lot of money and still not really anything happening.
lol, or giving corrupt regimes the means by which to make their subjects dependent on them and solidify control over people by human rights abusing dictators.
The Function of The UN is Liasion.
In this it is effective.
What happens after liasion is:
country A will renege on its committment
country B will deploy immediately
country C will find that Its Generals aren't interested or its soldiers won't move untill The Treasury greenlights an improved healthcare insurance package
Country D might committ 70% less resources if The Chancellor calls for Budget cuts to service the National Debt...
UN projects succeed if everyone sticks to The Gameplan.
Most of the time Country's working on UN projects have different goals and in deviating from the plan they undermine the effectiveness of The UN.