D'spayre disentigrated juggernaut with his own magic 😉 or mostly dissolved him. when he regained his magic (his magic was missing which is why he was able to be harmed) he reformed instantly.
your average every day destroyer cant do anything to juggernaut. any more than he can to the destroyer.
it would take some extreme circumstances for either to win 😉
as for the disentigration beam, it didnt even disentigrate thor, let alone juggernaut...
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Aren't you the one who said that magic needs no explanation? So what's with all of this?? 😛Destroyer = Magical Armor powered by Magical means and performing magical feats... helllooooo!
A better argument would have been to request feats wherein the destroyer showed the level of matter manipulation that allows it to create a material like adamantium.
Let us get the facts straight before we come to any conclusions.
Name some feats that suggest that Destroyer's beams will do damage to Juggs.
Now name some high feats that possibly show that Juggs can resist the Destroyer's beams.
For the latter I can name Thor resisting the D beam for a small moment and Juggs durability>>> Thor's. And I can name Juggs resisting Thor's godblast. I'd say Godblast is roughly equal to the disintegrator beam.
the destroyer is far stronger than classic thor was, and juggernaut was about equal with thor when they fought. so the dread destroyer will be the offensive aggressor the entire time, after juggy opens his big mouth about his secret weakness like always, it's only a matter of time before the destroyer erects a magical field surrounding him that negates his magical sustenance. then it's curtains for a de-powered juggernaut.
and the destroyer's magic makes the soul animating it more aggressive, it won't hold back from doing anything to kill juggernaut at any time. so a disintegrator shot is almost assured if juggernaut lasts long enough. without his magic, a d-shot will cut through him like butter.
it will play out almost exactly like the nimrod/juggernaut fight, just this time it will cost juggernaut his life.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
the destroyer is far stronger than classic thor was, and juggernaut was about equal with thor when they fought.
when was thor ever able to match juggernauts strength? oh you mean the time when juggernaut CASUALLY back handed thor and hurtled him across the sky? oh, oh now i see it.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
so the dread destroyer will be the offensive aggressor the entire time, after juggy opens his big mouth about his secret weakness like always, it's only a matter of time before the destroyer erects a magical field surrounding him that negates his magical sustenance. then it's curtains for a de-powered juggernaut.
if the destroyer cuts off the power, it is no longer fighting "the juggernaut". and its been seen that a juggernaut usually always exists. so if it leaves cain somebody else will become the juggernaut... in which case the destroyer didnt stop "the juggernaut".
Originally posted by psycho gundam
and the destroyer's magic makes the soul animating it more aggressive, it won't hold back from doing anything to kill juggernaut at any time. so a disintegrator shot is almost assured if juggernaut lasts long enough. without his magic, a d-shot will cut through him like butter.
actually what you are describing is the juggernaut also. the magic that animates the human makes them more agressive also, and they dont hold back. the magic affects cain differently however... he is just evil himself. the beam will not hurt juggernaut 😉. nothing on panel suggest otherwise. it leans heavily the opposite way in fact. almost nothing in comic-dom has hurt him but all of the sudden because you said so it will? i doubt it.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
it will play out almost exactly like the nimrod/juggernaut fight, just this time it will cost juggernaut his life.
so now not only is the destroyer magically sophisticated, but technologically sophisticated too?? and whats to stop juggernaut from permanently turning on his shield??? it has NEVER been penetrated. by anything.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
the destroyer is far stronger than classic thor was, and juggernaut was about equal with thor when they fought. so the dread destroyer will be the offensive aggressor the entire time, after juggy opens his big mouth about his secret weakness like always, it's only a matter of time before the destroyer erects a magical field surrounding him that negates his magical sustenance. then it's curtains for a de-powered juggernaut.and the destroyer's magic makes the soul animating it more aggressive, it won't hold back from doing anything to kill juggernaut at any time. so a disintegrator shot is almost assured if juggernaut lasts long enough. without his magic, a d-shot will cut through him like butter.
it will play out almost exactly like the nimrod/juggernaut fight, just this time it will cost juggernaut his life.
I disagree that destroyer is far stronger than classic thor (or stronger at all). The only way to say who is stronger is when one overpowers another when grappling or by better feats. It is foolish to go by who gets knocked around more to prove who is the stronger. Because if we didn't know any better we will think Spidey is stronger than Iron man just by their fights.
Also if destroyer isn't said nor shown to negate Juggs enchantment then he can't.
Juggs is not vulnerable to magic. He is vulnerable to certain magic. Just like the only radiation that Superman is vulnerable to is krytonite radiation.
Originally posted by Mindset
Where did you get that?
well considering that almost everything dr. strange threw at juggernaut he litterally walked through. or that thors godblast couldnt affect him. or that d'spayre took most of the juggernauts magic and still couldnt stop him... or that the blood axe which put a large chasm in the earth didnt affect him in the slightest...
its safe to say that juggernaut has atleast some magical protection. if not about from most types.
Originally posted by KillAllclassic levels of the both of them were pretty much deadlocked in strength. juggernaut actually believed that stealing thor's hammer would give him the advantage against him.
when was thor ever able to match juggernauts strength?
Originally posted by KillAll.... wrong and irrelevant
if the destroyer cuts off the power, it is no longer fighting "the juggernaut". and its been seen that a juggernaut usually always exists. so if it leaves cain somebody else will become the juggernaut... in which case the destroyer didnt stop "the juggernaut".
Originally posted by KillAllwrong and irrelevant
actually what you are describing is the juggernaut also. the magic that animates the human makes them more agressive also, and they dont hold back. the magic affects cain differently however... he is just evil himself. the beam will not hurt juggernaut 😉. nothing on panel suggest otherwise. it leans heavily the opposite way in fact. almost nothing in comic-dom has hurt him but all of the sudden because you said so it will? i doubt it.
Originally posted by KillAllhe can turn his shield on anytime he wants, and keep it up for that matter. the thing is, a magical barrier can negate that feature. simple as that.
so now not only is the destroyer magically sophisticated, but technologically sophisticated too?? and whats to stop juggernaut from permanently turning on his shield??? it has NEVER been penetrated. by anything.