Originally posted by tdazz
Except that he consistantly has no problem tagging Heralds who all move much, much faster than WW. But I guess we can ignore that huh.
I can tag a bullet, which are sometimes faster than me, if and when the bullet isn't moving. You get my point.
Also Hulk, Spiderman, Captain America, etc. can tag heralds too. I guess I can ignore that though?
Originally posted by tdazz
So heralds can travel dozens (hundereds in some instances) of times the speed of light, dodge asteroids and other obstacles at lightspeed but the instance someone shoots at them their reaction time slows down? Even if their reaction times aren't FTL (which makes no sense as they travel FTL so they would need FTL reflexes to accomplish this) it's obviously ridiculously fast as Surfer showed in the recent Nova arc.
Inference goes both ways don't you think?
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Thanos was blocking energy blasts with his hand after they were fired... 😖hifty:
Verbal exchange doesn't mean too much when it comes to determining things in comics.
Perhaps not, but it's a reaction feat if nothing else. What we saw was Surfer bullrushing Thanos, and getting hit before he could do much. Not much, but it's enough to show Surfer won't be bullrushing Thanos anytime soon.I doubt it was put up before Fallen One charged, as he would have seen the shield he was about to charge into, and then start his attack. It's be like looking at a brick wall, and then charging at it. But if said brick wall popped up while you were a foot away...
And of course Thanos knew he was going to fight. And his eyes almost always glow when he's mad.
He most likely didn't travel at warpspeed (I don't even remember reading that he could travel at this speed, unless it's in his Nova Corps file), but put up mid-charge is what we're led to believe.
Either way, more than likely, Thanos's shield will be up as soon as this battle starts, so all's irrelevant.
Depending on the circumstances, it may or may not count when determining the speed of the battle. My point is that Surfer bullrushing Thanos on his board was not in one of his highest board-speed showings, thus Thanos reacting to it isn't that impressive, at least in my view.
It's true that he probably didn't put it before Fallen One started his charge, but I also seriously doubt that he put it up mid-charge. Thanos's first option against an attack that he knew was coming is most likely a force field, so he certainly prepared this option as soon as he knew he was into a fight, thus at the first sign of Fallen One attacking he would 'activate' it, and not while Fallen One was already half way twoards him.
Anyway, I'm not debating whether or not Thanos will win this fight, but as to whether or not he has impressive combat speed showings. I'd probably give him the majority against both of them to be honest, the only problem being the plot-device lasso.
Originally posted by tdazz
Thank you. Was that so hard?As for the scan your seriously telling me that her using her lasso is an example of a speed blitz. Thor can throw Mjolnir FTL, does that mean Thor can blitz?
Secondly I never said WW didn't have superspeed it's just that she isn't in the same league as the Runner, Flash, or Supes as has been implied.
No I cannot show a Thanos speed feat because that is not his character or power. However tagging Surfer or Fallen One while in flight shows his reaction times is more than capable of dealing with WW's speed.
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/1935/silversurfer199003316ik9.jpg
Surfer dodging random lazer fire while firing back. ie more impressive then fangirl showing WW dodging one.
http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan0010ct3.jpg
http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan0011pd5.jpgNova thought Surfer was somekinda energy blast by Galactus.
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/48/marvelcomicspresents001fk4.jpg
Nano second reaction times. Light travels 30 seconds in one nano second. Like I said if not FTL reaction time damn near close.
And this is someone Thanos toys with, so how is WW's speed even a factor?
Also, grow up. You wanna report me for asking you to back up a claim go ahead. It's a comic book forum on an internet website, do you really think I care.
Faulty reasoning. Super slow guys have tagged Spiderman (with pre-cog), Superman, Flash, SS, Thanos, etc. Does that mean they are faster than WW? Like I said, I can tag a bullet if it isn't moving.
Originally posted by bbrem123
that is the same thing thanos does to hit faster people, quick reaction and anticipating where is enemy will beand silver surfer has been show to have nanosecond reaction speed
and i guess if u call ww charging a person with her shoulder a speedblitz then ok she can speedblitz(which will be completely useless on thanos)
and this is KMC thanos...so she wont even come close to hitting him with a speedblitz
There is no such thing as nanosecond reaction speed when defining battle reflexes. And if SS has this non-existent reaction speed then why does he often gets popped by much slower beings and attacks? Whatever the reason is, it is the same reason why Thanos can tag him too. If not, then prove me the difference. And if you say that Thanos did it enough times then I can show you Hulk and other much slower characters doing it enough times to defeat your argument.
Originally posted by PhilosophíaOr was it? 😖hifty:
Depending on the circumstances, it may or may not count when determining the speed of the battle. My point is that Surfer bullrushing Thanos on his board was not in one of his highest board-speed showings, thus Thanos reacting to it isn't that impressive, at least in my view.It's true that he probably didn't put it before Fallen One started his charge, but I also seriously doubt that he put it up mid-charge. Thanos's first option against an attack that he knew was coming is most likely a force field, so he certainly prepared this option as soon as he knew he was into a fight, thus at the first sign of Fallen One attacking he would 'activate' it, and not while Fallen One was already half way twoards him.
Anyway, I'm not debating whether or not Thanos will win this fight, but as to whether or not he has impressive combat speed showings. I'd probably give him the majority against both of them to be honest, the only problem being the plot-device lasso.
Fallen One was a couple feet away from Thanos... so any feat in which Thanos activated it while Fallen One was moving is still quite impressive.
And I just wanted to add that tasty piece of tidbit. I've always held the opinion that Thor stands absolutely no chance against Thanos, so, I guess WW is the main fight. srug
Originally posted by tdazz
I don't know where to begin.I ask for a scan of WW speed blitzing, you show her throwing her lasso. 😕
You ask for a scan of heralds reaction times, I show you Surfer breaking out of a trap in a nano second.
Isn't it hypocritical to use inference on SS yet deny others when they use inference too?
Originally posted by Bouboumaster
For the so overated Godblast, here's the answer:http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=omega57dl.jpg
http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=galactus35rc.jpg
(After this, Galactus have to exert himself to pierce Thanos forcefield. GALACTUS!!!)For the lasso:
http://img239.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thor8uf.jpg
(Take note that this is a feeble Thanos clone. The Thanos clone lost this fight. The real Thanos hang out in Daddy's court, not in the mere "herald lvler" class)
Or this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/thanos2i.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/thanos2ii.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/thanos2iii.jpgKnow that Thor never throws the hammer at the speed of light (only a few times in his career). It is more or less orbital speed at best (when he whirls it enough). For the hammer to reach the speed of light he must whirl it for a considerable time.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/Ixion83/ThanosNovaCorps-2.jpg
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Or was it? 😖hifty:Fallen One was a couple feet away from Thanos... so any feat in which Thanos activated it while Fallen One was moving is still quite impressive.
And I just wanted to add that tasty piece of tidbit. I've always held the opinion that Thor stands absolutely no chance against Thanos, so, I guess WW is the main fight. srug
It is impressive .. for Thanos's average 😖hifty:
How do you think pre-Death Thanos would do against current Thor ?
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
If I had to guess, I'd say warpspeed... really, that question doesn't have an answer just like 99% of speed feats. He was moving on his board to attack Thanos, and Thanos uppercutted him.
Even if that's true. Then he puts up his shield as soon as he sees the opponents on the other side of the field. He's done so to Thor; why not Thor and someone else.Ambiguity is pretty much every feat in comics. Hell, if we don't use that, then WW can only travel at the speed of sound.
If he puts a shield up then he is lost when it crumbles.
Originally posted by Philosophía...
And it keeps on going. 😂
I know. 🙁
I've only read two of them, but that's enough to kill half of my smarts,
Originally posted by PhilosophíaQuite.
It is impressive .. for Thanos's average 😖hifty:How do you think pre-Death Thanos would do against current Thor ?
Pre-Hat or Pre-Drax?
Originally posted by PhilosophíaCurrent Thor has really done nothing to prove he's even slightly above Classic. I mean, his best feat was creating Asgard... or lifting it I guess. Perhaps he's tough, but it's really nothing in a fight.
Drax.
Time will tell, but right now, he gets sodomized... just based on that performance (hopefully a smart writer makes it a Skrull).
Originally posted by h1a8I was last on here like 4 or more days ago, and I only read the first half of the first page on the vs forum... and clicked on less.
When I was last on here (1.5 days ago) there were only 4 pages. It then grew to 10 in my absence. So I'm trying to catch up.
Can't you put it all into like one post?
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Current Thor has really done nothing to prove he's even slightly above Classic. I mean, his best feat was creating Asgard... or lifting it I guess. Perhaps he's tough, but it's really nothing in a fight.
And based on Rulk...Time will tell, but right now, he gets sodomized... just based on that performance (hopefully a smart writer makes it a Skrull).
I was last on here like 4 or more days ago, and I only read the first half of the first page on the vs forum... and clicked on less.
Can't you put it all into like one post?
You're right! Sorry.
Originally posted by h1a8
Holding a planet together is super shitty compared to towing Earth and the moon. Thor's serpent feat is wack as the serpent was in ethereal form. He gains mad credit though for lifting the head (which materialized) though. Gladiator's feat is great too, but WW's is better.And it wasn't Batman alone that made Darkseid bleed. Batman used a plot device. Get your facts straight.
D.C. >>>Marvel on Average. This is the truth.
Wow, I really shouldn't have read that. Now, I'm more stupid because of this.
Originally posted by h1a8
And Superman can take Odin easily through speed everytime. I don't care if the world argues against me on this. Speed is the king and will always be. And WW does the same to Thanos (but using the tiara and lasso for extra's).
Wow thats got to be right up there with some of stupidest things I have ever seen posted on here 😆 .Speed means jack when your opponent is far far above you in power.
