Originally posted by DeadlineNo we either saw him running to save from the latter bullets or the writer's intention was that CA actually ran before the fire (when Skull pointed the gun).
How did you come to that conclusion. Its his comicbook and they are trying to show him off and we saw him running after the bullets.
Its a comicbook people talk while dodging bullets are they talking at supersonic speeds?
No one talks as in complete a sentence while the bullet is still in the air.
The writer posting a balloon for a character (for talking or thinking) while there are bullets in the air doesn't mean that the character said those words while time is standing still. All the pictures in comics are STILL thus it is impossible to show the action correctly in conjunction to talking.
Your last sentence proves my point.
Originally posted by h1a8
No we either saw him running to save from the latter bullets or the writer's intention was that CA actually ran before the fire (when Skull pointed the gun).No one talks as in complete a sentence while the bullet is still in the air.
The writer posting a balloon for a character (for talking or thinking) while there are bullets in the air doesn't mean that the character said those words while time is standing still. All the pictures in comics are STILL thus it is impossible to show the action correctly in conjunction to talking.Your last sentence proves my point.
Look just go away.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
According to the cross-genre thread DS's staff can one-shot cap.
Theres 2 scenerios here pal. As for the one shot..yeah um no, steves shield can one shot a choppa, ds staff can do the same, the trick is HITTING a super human foe with either of them.
So, please expand - if you will - on "easily".
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Dude, Cap's made freakin Onslaught bleed.We always use current versions of characters. Brubaker is now writing Cap and that means he's a legitimate meta, like it or not.
Are you kiddin me with that first statement? Okay, so I guess Batman making Darkseid and Spectre bleed are now legitamit feats and can be used to argue in a forum match? Or can you only used PIS feats as concrete evidence for Cap? He really seems to be the exception, at least around these parts.
Brubaker writes Steve as a Meta? Acccording to what?
Originally posted by jinzin
😂well this pretty much says it all for how far you're willing to go to......well.... be insane about defending a ridiculous and utterly stupid position TBH.
I'd continue to argue with you, but you're pretty much a waste time and have already shown yourself to utterly ignore what you don't like to advance your argument... yeah Cap punched Hulk out. .
yeah, respond to partial postings to make it seem as if I mean something else entirely. Great debating 👆
You're defending Cap punching out Hulk(supposedly) as a legit feat and then calling my position ridiculous and utterly stupid? Way to go genius 👆
And it's "waste of time" lol
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Bwahahaha. A desperate cry for someone who can't show off Slade better strength feats.All street level characters like Bats, Daredevil, Shang, have hurt or made bleed a durable character. Even Nick Fury recently put down some of the UFoes.
I see still no actual strength feats for Slade. His only good one was carrying that long cord....LOL. Too bad it's from a elseworld. 😈
If you can't see how punching Diana across an area and making her bleed can be a strength feat, then there's really no need to continue this.
What street level character can go mano e mano with Wonder Woman and contend? Steve, right? lol, GTFO
That's because you have to look with your eyes. Open them and you'll find plenty.
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Originally posted by namorsubby
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Originally posted by namorsubby
Are you kiddin me with that first statement? Okay, so I guess Batman making Darkseid and Spectre bleed are now legitamit feats and can be used to argue in a forum match? Or can you only used PIS feats as concrete evidence for Cap? He really seems to be the exception, at least around these parts.Brubaker writes Steve as a Meta? Acccording to what?
yeah, respond to partial postings to make it seem as if I mean something else entirely. Great debating 👆
You're defending Cap punching out Hulk(supposedly) as a legit feat and then calling my position ridiculous and utterly stupid? Way to go genius 👆
And it's "waste [b]of
time" lolIf you can't see how punching Diana across an area and making her bleed can be a strength feat, then there's really no need to continue this.
What street level character can go mano e mano with Wonder Woman and contend? Steve, right? lol, GTFO
That's because you have to look with your eyes. Open them and you'll find plenty.
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Seriously... Do you really get confused this easily? Seriously? No one thinks those are legit strength feats for Captain America. The whole reason they were even brought up in the first place was to show you the absurdity of using a punching feat in an attempt to gauge a character strength levels. People only mentioned these examples to try and show you why your example was completely irrelevant to DS's strength level.. but you are apparently sooooooooo clueless it was a colossal waste of time.
SERIOUSLY!?
Originally posted by srankmissingninthis coming from a man who believes Grayson is faster than Slade and inferior in every way to Elektra.lol
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Seriously... Do you really get confused this easily? Seriously? No one thinks those are legit strength feats for Captain America. The whole reason they were even brought up in the first place was to show you the absurdity of using a punching feat in an attempt to gauge a character strength levels. People only mentioned these examples to try and show you why your example was completely irrelevant to DS's strength level.. but you are apparently sooooooooo clueless it was a colossal waste of time.
SERIOUSLY!?
Based on those ludicrous statements, I shouldn't even continue to address any post you make in any Slade match, but I'm bored, so whatever.
I don't really get where you guys are coming from when you say a punching feat can't gauge strength. If I punch through something no one else can as a human, then wouldn't that mean I'm the strongest of my kind? is that not determining relative strength level through punching?
So punching feats now can't be used as strength feats because there are examples of people with with hyped punching feats? There are also instances of people lifting, throwing, and ripping things they shouldn't in comics but that doesn't mean that now those feats can't be used to determine strength.
Those examples you guys stated are in no way related to Slade's feat. It's a completely legit strength feat, unlike the others, why? Because it accurately conveys Slade's level of strength based on consistent showings since his conception. These other feats are off the wall and are in no way justified by what the character has done in the past or what they usually do ever. Slade was shown battling Donna Troy in his first appearance and has since fought her several times. Therefore you can say Slade has the neccesary strength to damage her and her counterpart Diana based on the history they have. The same can't be said for these other examples.
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I don't even need those punching feats to prove Cap isn't superior in strength BTW. If they somehow don't apply, then someone can take the time to compare these guys' other feats. I've got all day, and I've got the feats. Anyone?
Originally posted by srankmissingninI'm still bored, so I might as well get this one outta the way too.
I know some people like to fool themselves into thinking that Captain America is the Marvel equivalent of Batman and that the differences between the two are miniscule, but that isn't the case at all Batman just isn't on the same level as Captain America. Now if Batman was physically the equal of Deathstroke then he might actually be on par with Captain America. That's the reality of the situation. Captain America is a strong and fast as Deathstroke (stronger and faster actually but just go with it for the sake of clarity) and as skilled Batman (ditto). Steve is too strong and fast for Batman to beat, and too skilled for Deathstroke to beat. He is the best of both of them. Slade would need prep to take Cap and so would Batman.
1. There's absolutely no way you can prove through feats that Steve Rogers is "on another level" or even superior at all to Batman. I've seen and been apart of enough Cap/Bat feat comparisons to know that neither really possess a determinable amount of superiority in any category on each other, but of course both sides will always be at odds concerning it so we get no where.
2.Slade has already stated and proved that he is physically superior to Batman, Cap hasn't. In crossovers they achieve the most perfect stalemates I've seen. In Slade's 2nd fight with Bruce, he swatted him like a fly, twice, and wasn't even remotely interested in fighting Bruce. I don't know what you guys think Cap is, but if Slade can treat Batman like a chump in his own title, then I don't see how Cap is "equal" at all.
3. Slade has stated superhuman speed which he has called "instantaneous" several times. It's even refered to as so in a handbook. Steve is not faster than Slade. How you came to that conclusion, I have no idea. Oh yeah, you think NW is faster even though he literally stated himself than he wasn't, nevermind.lol
When you're strong enough and fast enough to slug it out with Wonderwomans mano e mano for some time, you've officially surpassed Steve Rogers in Strength and Speed. Take note of that, will ya.lol
4. Cap is as skilled as Bruce based on? Cap is too skilled for slade based on what? Answers and proof, Srank, that's what you need to provide, not idle statements.
Originally posted by namorsubby
Are you kiddin me with that first statement? Okay, so I guess Batman making Darkseid and Spectre bleed are now legitamit feats and can be used to argue in a forum match? Or can you only used PIS feats as concrete evidence for Cap? He really seems to be the exception, at least around these parts.Brubaker writes Steve as a Meta? Acccording to what?
You're the one who brought this up. You think that Slade's PIS-tastic striking feat is somehow legitimate? Get real.
According to the interview that is cited quite often here (I'm sure you've seen it. Didn't Phantom Zone post it?). And feats, of course.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You're the one who brought this up. You think that Slade's PIS-tastic striking feat is somehow legitimate? Get real.According to the interview that is cited quite often here (I'm sure you've seen it. Didn't Phantom Zone post it?). And feats, of course.
An interview in which one author apparently said he thought Cap was physically superior? How the hell does that hold relevance over Batman and Cap's entire comic history? The opinion of one author? Are you Serious?
If you think you can prove it through feats(which I know you can't), go ahead and try.
And again, where is Steve stated meta? According to what is Steve Rogers Low meta/supehuman level? Slade has always been because he is and has always been metahuman.
