Captain America v Deathstroke

Originally posted by namorsubby
Slade in both. More metahuman in all aspects. Tactical and calculated enough to fight smarter despite being less skilled. Not even a contest with dcnu armor.

The armor that has been broken by class twos and couldn't even stop a katana. facepalm

Only a witless fanboy would think a character with no strength or speed feats of merit to his name is "more metahuman in all aspects" than Captain America. You. Are. A. Joke. Please, just go to comicvine with the rest of the know-nothings already.

1. Youre lying. Never broken by class two. Ive read every dcnu slade appearance you dummy....id know.lol

2. It Stood up to Lobo. Before you start with your stance that preboot power levels have no bearing on dcnu characters.....just dont. They obviously do as most characters including slade have displayed feats around their previous levels. Only a moron would deny this.

3. The fact that you discount all slades speed and strength feats based on your own made up standards on what a showing must line up with to be considered valid is laughable. You self supported and established guidelines mean jack sh*t. In other words.....youre delusional.

Originally posted by namorsubby
1. Youre lying. Never broken by class two. Ive read every dcnu slade appearance you dummy....id know.lol

2. It Stood up to Lobo. Before you start with your stance that preboot power levels have no bearing on dcnu characters.....just dont. They obviously do as most characters including slade have displayed feats around their previous levels. Only a moron would deny this.

3. The fact that you discount all slades speed and strength feats based on your own made up standards on what a showing must line up with to be considered valid is laughable. You self supported and established guidelines mean jack sh*t. In other words.....youre delusional.

Midnighter broke Grant's Nth metal armor, which is the exact same as Slade's only with a different paint job, by punching him.

Slade has been repetitively stabbed and even shot through his armor already in the DCnU... and you think that his armor will not only protect him from Cap, but actually afford him an advantage? Other than you being a fanboy, what possible reasoning is there for that train of thought?

The Nth metal didn't stand up to Lobo, he also broke it. It's been stabbed through with a katana. Grant cut through it repeatedly with various edge weapons. I snub nose revolver punched through it no problem. Legacy hacked through the shoulder pad. Midnighter broke Grant's armor. Lobo broke Slade's. Deadborn cracked the mask. What even seen of the armor on panel is less than impressive. It's about as good as the Promethum armor he had pre boot.

Slade doesn't have any speed or strength feats worth discounting. He does not have a single speed or strength feat on par with Batman's best, never mind Captain America.

Cap wins.

Deathstroke is metahuman. Cap is peak human. Deathstroke is superior.

Note: Deathstroke's entire body is not covered in nth metal. just shoulders forearms, knees, and shin guards. He healed from being impaled in a matter of seconds.

Deathstroke stomps.

With prep. Deathstroke murders.

The fact of the matter is, Deathstroke wins.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Yeah Cap is just overall superior as he is more super soldier in over all abilities. Combined with Steves better tactical abilities and greater hth skills. Even the overrated Ninth Armour would not help him prevail against his unbreakable shield.

That Slade would defeat classic Slade though. What a pansy that Slade is....he he he he.

Slade was close to peak human even before his power up. Cap was skinny and weak and then was powered up. Slade was a top tier soldier and then had everything included senses magnified by a power of 10. Now he wears Nth metal which almost magically amplifies everything farther in Hawkman's words.

Slade is superior.

Originally posted by Vanguard
Deathstroke is metahuman. Cap is peak human. Deathstroke is superior.

Note: Deathstroke's entire body is not covered in nth metal. just shoulders forearms, knees, and shin guards. He healed from being impaled in a matter of seconds.

Deathstroke stomps.

With prep. Deathstroke murders.

The fact of the matter is, Deathstroke wins.

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That is nothing but speculation on your part, but even if it's true... so what? His mask, and his shoulder pads have already been busted up on panel, and those are for sure Nth metal, and if the rest isn't, then what sort of protection does that even provide him against Cap?

Captain America is blatantly superhuman. He has been directly stated to be superhuman on panel dozens of times. If you aren't familiar with at least do use the courtesy of a google search before you spew your useless opinions with use.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
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That is nothing but speculation on your part, but even if it's true... so what? His mask, and his shoulder pads have already been busted up on panel, and those are for sure Nth metal, and if the rest isn't, then what sort of protection does that even provide him against Cap?

Captain America is blatantly superhuman. He has been directly stated to be superhuman on panel dozens of times. If you aren't familiar with at least do use the courtesy of a google search before you spew your useless opinions with use.

It's not speculation. It's clear as day. The nth metal armor has a gold overtone to it. The only person I've seen really give it damage is Lobo. And he's at least class 100. Hawkman has clearly stated that Slade is now amplified even farther than his classic incarnation. I have scans to prove it. But it isn't necessary really.

If anyone else has damaged the armor.......you'd have to show me...cuz I don't recall anything else. His senses are also far superior......to the point where Slade can tell how powerful people are before they use their power.

Originally posted by Vanguard
It's not speculation. It's clear as day. The nth metal armor has a gold overtone to it. The only person I've seen really give it damage is Lobo. And he's at least class 100. Hawkman has clearly stated that Slade is now amplified even farther than his classic incarnation. I have scans to prove it. But it isn't necessary really.

If anyone else has damaged the armor.......you'd have to show me...cuz I don't recall anything else. His senses are also far superior......to the point where Slade can tell how powerful people are before they use their power.

It's pure speculation. Grant's armor and kris are Nth metal, neither of which are gold. There is this thing, it's called paint. Have you heard of it?

Nu52 Lobo wasn't a class 100. His one strength feat is ripping a dude in half... so... he is as strong as Kingpin. Sweet.

Yeah because Hawkman is meta, he breaks the fourth wall and remembers what Slade was like before the pre boot. facepalm

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
It's pure speculation. Grant's armor and kris are Nth metal, neither of which are gold. There is this thing, it's called paint. Have you heard of it?

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If you had read some Deathstroke you would have noticed how Hawkman and Slade talked about how unique Slades armor is. His is not only Nth metal. It's also a mixture of some other metals. Deathstroke's armor is unique to theirs. That's one reason he hasn't merged with it.

Originally posted by Vanguard
If you had read some Deathstroke you would have noticed how Hawkman and Slade talked about how unique Slades armor is. His is not only Nth metal. It's also a mixture of some other metals. Deathstroke's armor is unique to theirs. That's one reason he hasn't merged with it.

If you read some Deathstroke you know that Grant is Deathstroke's son, not a Thangarian. His armor is the same as Slade's, only it is black and grey, not blue and orange.

WTF?

Slade stomps Cap now? Based on what? If all Lobo did to showcase "class 100" strength (I have no doubt Lobo in the upcoming villains special will be infinitely better than the trash Liefeld penned, however) was ripping someone apart, Pre-Flashpoint non-Venom'd Bane can rip people apart literally and he'd get sonned by Rogers.

And further more, if Slade surviving an encounter with Lobo is what puts him over Cap...lol, Cap's made a history of surviving and even humbling legitimate tried and true class 100s.

I mean, honestly, do people think Cap's fists (let alone the shield) can't fracture Slade's armor?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
WTF?

Slade stomps Cap now? Based on what? If all Lobo did to showcase "class 100" strength (I have no doubt Lobo in the upcoming villains special will be infinitely better than the trash Liefeld penned, however) was ripping someone apart, Pre-Flashpoint non-Venom'd Bane can rip people apart literally and he'd get sonned by Rogers.

And further more, if Slade surviving an encounter with Lobo is what puts him over Cap...lol, Cap's made a history of surviving and even humbling legitimate tried and true class 100s.

I mean, honestly, do people think Cap's fists (let alone the shield) can't fracture Slade's armor?

The only experience these two knuckle heads have with Captain America is when they glanced at the movie poster two years ago in a bus stop.

I'd also like to know how Slade is tactically superior to Rogers as well in the New 52 continuity.

I think Pre-Flashpoint Slade - specifically Marv Wolfman's interpretation - could definitely give Cap a good run, but he's had years worth of feats to show him manipulating the Titans and others. I've yet to see any tactical feats that put him beyond Steve in the current continuity.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
If you read some Deathstroke you know that Grant is Deathstroke's son, not a Thangarian. His armor is the same as Slade's, only it is black and grey, not blue and orange.

Your argument is based on colors. And my argument is based on actual words spoken on panel. Think about that.

Originally posted by Vanguard
Your argument is based on colors. And my argument is based on actual words spoken on panel. Think about that.

Your argument isn't based on anything. Grant's armor isn't a symbiotic armor like Hawkman's either, It's the EXACT SAME AS DEATHSTROKES. They were made by the same person, they just have a different color.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I'd also like to know how Slade is tactically superior to Rogers as well in the New 52 continuity.

I think Pre-Flashpoint Slade - specifically Marv Wolfman's interpretation - could definitely give Cap a good run, but he's had years worth of feats to show him manipulating the Titans and others. I've yet to see any tactical feats that put him beyond Steve in the current continuity.

And yes, he handled the telepath too

How exactly does any of that put him above Cap in terms of strategy or tactics? He evaluated some scrubs and dispatched them handily. Cap's done that, too. He monologued about how he doesn't need his enhanced physical ability to take them down. Cap's noted that before multiple times. He mentioned how his mind is enhanced, able to calculate with extreme proficiency and speed like a super computer. Cap's mind has likewise been described as enhanced.

Really the only thing Slade displayed that Cap doesn't have is enhanced sense of smell (and I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Cap had a random smelling feat). Cap's also reacted to Quicksilver before, who has way more feats than that Liefeld alien.

So, no, I'm not seeing anything that tactically speaking, puts Slade above Cap. It's impressive, but Cap had dozens, if not more, feats of him handling an ambush attempt from powered beings.

What is it in those scans that you believe is impressive?

Cap's done all of that, but better, and he did it against better more powerful characters.