Sentry vs Juggernaut

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Originally posted by janus77
you forget the basic fact that King Hulk wasn't bothered. he was going easy on Juggernaut, just as he did to the X-Men minutes before, just as he kept doing all the way through to the very end... and then almost unleashing properly.

Hulk had an agenda and a timetable to stick to, he wasn't there to prove the obvious (that infinite strength is an awful lot more than required to ***** Juggernaut).

He went easy on him? Says who? I doubt The Hulk would go easy on somebody that made him bleed or stomped on him. Repowered Juggernaut is not the kind of character any Hulk should go easy on he went toe to toe with Hulk and had the upper hand until the bfr.

hmm..looks like everyone missed the part where hulk double uppercutted the helmet leaving a good sized dent into it. the shape of the helmet makes a solid hit difficult, but hulk still managed to get a piece of it.

He dented the helmet, but no blood was spilled on Juggernaut's end.

Isn't Juggernaut's flesh actually more durable than his armor? I always figured the helmet and cowl were more for protection against psionic attacks.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
He dented the helmet, but no blood was spilled on Juggernaut's end.

Isn't Juggernaut's flesh actually more durable than his armor? I always figured the helmet and cowl were more for protection against psionic attacks.

Ya, his helmet has been smashed before by Thor, it's his skin that's the tricky part.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
He dented the helmet, but no blood was spilled on Juggernaut's end.

Isn't Juggernaut's flesh actually more durable than his armor? I always figured the helmet and cowl were more for protection against psionic attacks.

true it is more durable, but to this date how many times has his armour ever been damaged? that was the only strike the hulk attempted/landed and look at the inoperable damage it caused.

if the hulk was determined to kill the jugernaut, cain would have faced off against a hulk in world breaker mode, the fight would have been totally different to say the least.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
if the hulk was determined to kill the jugernaut, cain would have faced off against a hulk in world breaker mode, the fight would have been totally different to say the least.
Why would he have faced off against World Breaker Hulk? It was only through Miek's betrayal that this Hulk even showed up.
He was determined to kill the Illuminati, and he turned into WWH... not World Breaker, so, really, that is no excuse to say he wasn't trying. 😬

Originally posted by psycho gundam
true it is more durable, but to this date how many times has his armour ever been damaged? that was the only strike the hulk attempted/landed and look at the inoperable damage it caused.

if the hulk was determined to kill the jugernaut, cain would have faced off against a hulk in world breaker mode, the fight would have been totally different to say the least.

Cain never reached Worldbreaker except when he was incredibly pissed off by Miek nearly killing Rick and how Miek knew what really destroyed Sakaar, he can't enter it when he wants to.

not really concerned with the why or how, i'm just saying if he was as determined/angry enough to go world breaker against the juggernaut he could possibly tear him to pieces.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
not really concerned with the why or how, i'm just saying if he was as determined/angry enough to go world breaker against the juggernaut he could possibly tear him to pieces.
😱 Seriously?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
not really concerned with the why or how, i'm just saying if he was as determined/angry enough to go world breaker against the juggernaut he could possibly tear him to pieces.

NO.

sure i think it's "possible", world breaker hulk was obviously more powerful than the hulk that bumped heads with juggernaut, getting pushed back would only be the beginning of the stuff that hulk could "possibly" do to him.

Sentry for the win,juggernaut proof nothing..........and Rulk will kick is ass next time 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
What happens if Sentry combos him?

Good post! I may change my view on this because of it.

If Juggs is able to be koed, which I think he can since he has been before seemingly jarred by strong physical strikes, then he will be koed. So Sentry wins by combo.

Now if Juggs cannot be stunned by Sentry's hits then Juggs wins.

So the argument is can Sentry hit Juggs hard enough to jarr him.

But Juggs have shields right? If he gets them up then there is no jarring him.

Juggernaut.

No BFR means Juggernaut all day, every day.

Not even Sentry's speed will be a weapon in this fight.

Originally posted by iceman24567
He went easy on him? Says who? I doubt The Hulk would go easy on somebody that made him bleed or stomped on him. Repowered Juggernaut is not the kind of character any Hulk should go easy on he went toe to toe with Hulk and had the upper hand until the bfr.

read the WWH arc, it's hammered in your face like a Thor attack.
Hulk was going easy on everybody. he even left Zom/Strange alive, he measured his punches, at all times. bfr'ing or disabling the X-Men instead of going for the kill, KOing instead of killing the FF even Reed was left alive.

he never had any intention of killing nor did he ever use lethal force.

the one time when he really truly was beginning to lose control was right after Miek's revelations took him over the edge and he started to let the power loose.

oh and although WorldBreaker levels of power are awesome, Hulk doesn't need to be at that level of power to have the strength to deal with Juggernaut. remember Hulk's already dealt with Onslaught who was way too physically strong for the Juggernaut. Hulk's resilience >> anything Juggernaut can do, yet Hulk's offensive power (physical) >>> Onslaught's offensive power (physical).

anyway, back to this topic. I think Sentry might win via the light/energy attacks... sonics work on Juggernaut, why not light?

or else it's a stalemate because Juggernaut will never touch Sentry, all Sentry need do is float in the sky.

janus' issue is that since the uber-amped Hulk couldn't defeat Sentry, Juggernaut surely couldn't either.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
janus' issue is that since the uber-amped Hulk couldn't defeat Sentry, Juggernaut surely couldn't either.

interesting theory, up there with the flat earth ✅

my theory is that the character who could withstand a fight with skyfather level Onslaught and actually do physical damage where all the other heroes failed, is perhaps a little bit too much for a character whose greatest feat to date is taking the GodBlast.

seriously, Hulk stomps on Juggernaut if it is a proper "to the death" kind of fight. you can't exhaust Hulk, he has infinite stamina, he will only get stronger, he's already way faster, smarter and more skilled ... there's no rational reason for even supposing Juggernaut stands a chance, unless you deliberately chose to ignore reason 😐

anyway, this is going off-topic. Sentry wins/stalemate.
Juggernaut has never demonstrated sufficient strength to be a problem to Sentry, though Sentry has yet to demonstrate the strength to kill Juggernaut he does have sufficient strength to temporarily bfr him (utilising his unassailable speed and reaction time advantage) thus making sure Juggernaut never lands a single useful blow.

Sentry's energy/light attacks would probably disorientate/hurt Juggernaut... so there's that as an option. otherwise Sentry just flies around and mocks Juggernaut till that little mind breaks... Sentry TP attacks Juggernaut???

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Ya, his helmet has been smashed before by Thor, it's his skin that's the tricky part.
Helmet > skin... ?

sly

Juggernaut for the win.

Unlimited strength. Invulnerable. Unstoppable.