Originally posted by Metalmanxare you nuts? remember, thor busted juggy's helmet before true, but it was after he cut juggernaut off from the influx of new cyttorak energies. juggernaut then became "de-powered juggernaut" for the remainder of mijolnir's magic negating vortex.
And lulz at people thinking WWHulk could rip Juggy apart. 😂
hulk on the other hand put a decent sized dent in the helmet with one shot even though juggernaut was back to classic levels with his energy feed still healthy....see the weight of that?
if hulk fought juggernaut post-miek statement.....my oh my....lets just say the dents in juggy's helmet would be bigger.
Originally posted by janus77
yeah because it's not like Hulk's actually got feats of strength and durability to show that he's beyond Juggernaut...stopped. limited. vulnerable 🙂
other than that, you were on the right tracks ✅
So you also believe that Juggy wins?
I obviously put in this adjectives for fun, but if you want to to debate that, that's fine with me.
When have you ever seen Juggy unable to lift/pull/push/etc. some object or some opponent? He has unlimited strength. And Hulk having greater durability feats... 🤨
Aside from having his non-helmeted head attacked with telepathy, how else is Juggy vulnerable? That bullshit sonic attack from Nimrod? So Juggy can his flesh entirely seared off and continue to live/fight, but don't you dare attack him with sound! Oh noes! That's a load of crap writing if I've ever seen it.
Stopped? What, by a celestially-amped War Hulk? And by who else? Onslaught? That ridiculous monstrosity composed entirely of PSIONIC energy? And anyway, all he did was knock Juggernaut to Jersey. We don't know anything more about the fight. Juggy can't fly, so it makes sense that he could be knocked some distance away by an attack, especially if he wasn't moving forward at the time. But still, a being composed entirely of psionic energy. Given the crazy shit that happened in the Onslaught saga, I'm even inclined to believe that he was somehow able to affect Juggernaut in some way as to make him more vulnerable. OR, it could've just been the best way to quickly show off Onslaught's power to the readers. Onslaught = Rulk of the 1990s.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
are you nuts? remember, thor busted juggy's helmet before true, but it was after he cut juggernaut off from the influx of new cyttorak energies. juggernaut then became "de-powered juggernaut" for the remainder of mijolnir's magic negating vortex.hulk on the other hand put a decent sized dent in the helmet with one shot even though juggernaut was back to classic levels with his energy feed still healthy....see the weight of that?
if hulk fought juggernaut post-miek statement.....my oh my....lets just say the dents in juggy's helmet would be bigger.
...🤨 So what? Big deal, his armor was dented. Juggernaut's always been FAR more durable than his armor. It's only there to be another added layer of protection.
Originally posted by Metalmanxhulk at the level he fought juggy > mystical metal, post-miek revelation imo all that juggernaut's durability has to offer.
...🤨 So what? Big deal, his armor was dented. Juggernaut's always been FAR more durable than his armor. It's only there to be another added layer of protection.
he'd give juggernaut the anti-onslaught punch. shattering his shit
Originally posted by MetalmanxJuggernaut definitely is sure as hell durable without his armor. But care to prove that he is far more durable than his armor?
...🤨 So what? Big deal, his armor was dented. Juggernaut's always been FAR more durable than his armor. It's only there to be another added layer of protection.
On Juggernaut's helmet, Colossus has completely destroyed Cains Helmet and this was before the was a class 100. Juggernaut's armor is there to keep him from becoming naked after running through all those walls.
As for the Onslaught thing, Cain never got a chance to fight back. He was still depowered from his time in the other dimension.
And if we go by A B C logic, Spider-Man Drove a gas truck at Cain and it hit and exploded. Cain Walked out of the fire unharmed. Spider-Man threw a Truck at Hulk, it KO'd Hulk. Juggernaut >> Hulk, by ABC logic.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I can't believe you people are saying Hulk wins a fight to the death against jugs. Hulk doesn't have unlimited stamina and will eventually tire out and then juggs will take over and stomp the hulk. As for Sentry hahahaha lol.... without bfr sentry has no chance.
i agree on juggs>>hulk part.
it makes me laugh the fact that ww hulk had bfr juggs because he couldnt physically beat him,which is ironic really seeing as hulk is supposedly the strongest there is.
Originally posted by Ptr_GrifinWhat issue did Colossus destroy Cain's helmet?
On Juggernaut's helmet, Colossus has completely destroyed Cains Helmet and this was before the was a class 100. Juggernaut's armor is there to keep him from becoming naked after running through all those walls.As for the Onslaught thing, Cain never got a chance to fight back. He was still depowered from his time in the other dimension.
And if we go by A B C logic, Spider-Man Drove a gas truck at Cain and it hit and exploded. Cain Walked out of the fire unharmed. Spider-Man threw a Truck at Hulk, it KO'd Hulk. Juggernaut >> Hulk, by ABC logic.
And Shatterstar has stabbed Juggernaut's eyes. So that's proof that at least his eyes are not as durable as his armor.
Also, I do not recall Juggernaut being depowered when Onslaught whacked him. I specifically recall Xavier telling Bishop and Boom Boom to not follow him after he woke up with words such as, "No. The Juggernaut at his peak is unstoppable."
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
What issue did Colossus destroy Cain's helmet?And Shatterstar has stabbed Juggernaut's eyes. So that's proof that at least his eyes are not as durable as his armor.
Also, I do not recall Juggernaut being depowered when Onslaught whacked him. I specifically recall Xavier telling Bishop and Boom Boom to not follow him after he woke up with words such as, "No. The Juggernaut at his peak is unstoppable."
yea i dont recall a depowering of him...all i remember was he was terrified by onslaught after that event
Originally posted by allen4
without his armor?WWH just break him...............without the unlimited strenght worldbreaker level..........sentry win.........
LAUGHING MY ASS OFF!
Did you know who that Juggernaut was? lmao, did you think the armour was the thing that made the difference? Reading comprehension, it's nice to have.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
What issue did Colossus destroy Cain's helmet?And Shatterstar has stabbed Juggernaut's eyes. So that's proof that at least his eyes are not as durable as his armor.
Also, I do not recall Juggernaut being depowered when Onslaught whacked him. I specifically recall Xavier telling Bishop and Boom Boom to not follow him after he woke up with words such as, "No. The Juggernaut at his peak is unstoppable."
It was a issue with Spidey and the X-men.
Shatterstar's swords are of mystical origin. So it was the magic that allowed them to pierce Juggernaut's eyes which grew back at a faster rate then when Logan cut WWH's eyes.
Juggernaut was transported to a different dimension in which his powers were greatly diminished. This happened in the "All New Exiles" published by Malibu. After he returned home, he was greeted by Onslaught who then ripped the gem out of his chest.
Cain got his power back after spending some time in the gem and defeating a Cyttorak puppet thing.
Originally posted by allen4
without his armor?WWH just break him...............without the unlimited strenght worldbreaker level..........sentry win.........
As llagrok posted, it is good to read everyting and understand it all before making false post like yours.
That is Cain before he was repowered in WWH: X-men #2. He was repowered in WWH: X-men #3.
LAUGHING MY ASS OFF! WTF !!!!!
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regular juggernaut is a god?no
is Cosmic Entity?no
is superman prime?no
is a human big guy,Cain Marko powered by mystical energies from Cyttorak via a magical gemstone.........
regular savage hulk beat him physically by the past,celestians war hulk nearly kill him,hulk with mystical help is able to kill the juggernaut,is a fact.......one guy in marvel universe fight sentry,is wwh,i don't think you really know the real level of worldbreaker.................
Originally posted by allen4
regular savage hulk beat him physically by the past,celestians war hulk nearly kill him,hulk with mystical help is able to kill the juggernaut,is a fact.......one guy in marvel universe fight sentry,is wwh,i don't think you really know the real level of worldbreaker.................
Again it is best to read everything and understand it all. Hulk has never beaten Juggernaut physically. War Hulk didn't even scratch Juggernaut and Juggernaut walked away without any injuries except to his pride. Juggernaut pretty much can't be killed. The mystical energies heal him from any wound, and he doesn't need any organs at all to stand and fight.
Originally posted by allen4
read everything?
i'm sorry but for me savage hulk beat this guy physically,when he beat him hulk no want to finish him.........
Did you read the rest of that comic? Juggernaut got up uninjured. It was Xaiver and Marvel Girl who were randomly driving around in the desert who put Juggernaut down, not Hulk. Cain didn't even have a scratch on him.
