Individually, Alice is VERY weak. Your forgetting she has no powers that increase her strength or combat. Say, she does take away the power of one of the power users, what happens next? They could still defeat her in close quarter combat without their powers, unless their totally inexperienced in that field.
Originally posted by jalek moye
how is ace of tales there but not jinx
Because Jinx has (as seen in the RP) a negative mutation that effect her continuingly. She also has no protection against mental abilities.
Ace of Tales (if I understood it properly) could push her shapeshifting abilities so far that she actually became air. She is immune to mental abilities and uneffected by time manipulation. If we are to believe in her quotes, she said she can transform herself to anything thinkable, and she said can summon soldiers of any shape, and she can read the past and future of an object by touching it (And according to her profile, she has mystical artifacts) 😛
Originally posted by jalek moye
i just thought of somthing how could a power negater logically take someones super stregnth or speed away. I mean i can see it working if they get that way from amping themselves but if its just how they are i'm not really seeing it
I think it depends how it is.
In terms of Vash, his demeanor and appearance isn't proportional to his strength. He isn't like 7'5 and has muscles everywhere. But his strength is alike to that, so it's sort of like a power that runs through him, not genetically born through him.
However, there can be different cases.
Originally posted by Spidervlad
Individually, Alice is VERY weak. Your forgetting she has no powers that increase her strength or combat. Say, she does take away the power of one of the power users, what happens next? They could still defeat her in close quarter combat without their powers, unless their totally inexperienced in that field.
Alice has practised Aikido, which is basically the martial art where you use your opponents strength against them, permitting a physically weaker or less capable of overcoming a stronger or more efficient foe.
Also, I am just looking things over in general. She have problem with certain characters, but I believe she handily could defeat the majority.
Originally posted by Becci
Alice has practised Aikido, which is basically the martial art where you use your opponents strength against them, permitting a physically weaker or less capable of overcoming a stronger or more efficient foe.Also, I am just looking things over in general. She have problem with certain characters, but I believe she handily could defeat the majority.
It teaches body movements instead of strength as a self defense against bigger opponents. It also teacher not to cause any harm, but joint pins or immobilization. It's basically meant to self defend against some of those say, huge bullies that don't really know anything about combat, although they are quite strong? Jalek is right, it is pretty much useful against someone who has fighting experience, but not many in Hero High have CQC training or experience.
Originally posted by JacopeX
To me, it depends more on experience than the fighting style. You can be the best drunken fist master in the entire world and beat any fighting style. Unless if one surpasses the master with his/her own style....or maybe the same. 😉
Experience is a vitality, but will not get you the whole way.
Originally posted by BecciI am pretty sure it would. I mean, my weakness is grappling if I only depend on my eight limbs when it comes to my style, but if I were a master at it against a normal judo fighter, it would be an easy win. Style does not matter. Capoeria, a dance used as a performance has been used as a fighting style but is also one of the worst. It can be mastered and that skill can easily surpass any style as long as the experience surpasses.
Experience is a vitality, but will not get you the whole way.
Originally posted by Becci
Experience is a vitality, but will not get you the whole way.
I really believe experience is one of the most important factors in fighting.
You can learn how to defend yourself from a certain attack out of combat in a training room your whole life, but when it truly comes at you you could easily do something wrong or panic.
Experience teaches you too keep a cool head, which is important in martial arts. When we get into a fight, the adrenaline takes control of us and you would most likely be tempted to try and just beat the living shit out of your opponent with punches 😛
Originally posted by jalek moye
And how many competent fighters have you beat using only Aikido moves. Besides the basic punches and kicks
Kicks and punches is not the strength of Aikido. The throws are. And what does it matter how many that use it? It can and is still a highly efficient art. It's a defensive style. Offensive martial arts are more popular, and in many cases a better choice, which is the reason you see less Aikido.
Originally posted by Becci
Kicks and punches is not the strength of Aikido. The throws are. And what does it matter how many that use it? It can and is still a highly efficient art. It's a defensive style. Offensive martial arts are more popular, and in many cases a better choice, which is the reason you see less Aikido.
But you miss the point. Aikido tries to confuse your opponents ground work in order to catch him off balance and trigger his weak points, and then grabbling him and immobilizing him.
That's the thing, an experienced master won't be fooled and contain his footwork. But the chances are, if you mastered Aikido you won't meet many people you have to defend yourself from that will be so skilled.
Originally posted by Shalimar_fox
It's fully psychic.Unless you have some other means.
Well, he can also channel the energies through his rapier is the only issue I'm having with classification... Although, I suppose it could just be a means of amplifying the power, similar to Charles Xavier's Cerebro... but entirely different... Am I the only one I'm confusing?