Solid Snake w/Super Soldier Serum vs. Captain America

Originally posted by jalek moye
who has snake beat hand to hand that can lift hundreds of tones and which game. Also what about the stamina thing and snakes done nothing to suggest he's as fast as cap

Originally posted by Marvelknight
No one. But I would be bold enough to say that Vulcan Raven or Grey Fox are stronger than Cap.

But this time it's different. He's up against someone who is completely on his level. That can sometimes be more difficult than someone with a lot of raw power and no h2h skills at all. All of Snake foes are highly trained in combat.

whats the highest level of weapons that each can get

Originally posted by jalek moye
whats the highest level of weapons that each can get

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Lol, good one. But that's over doing it. Cap will have his shield and any other range weapon (pistols, automatic, rocket launchers etc). No cosmic or magical items or weapons.

Snake can use any weapon from mgs, except MG Rex or Ray.

And no dolls or the bandanna with unlimited ammo.

Originally posted by jalek moye
who has snake beat hand to hand that can lift hundreds of tones and which game. Also what about the stamina thing and snakes done nothing to suggest he's as fast as cap

Originally posted by Ha-Son
Cyborg Ninja.

i dont recall cyborg ninja being able to lift hundreds of tons at one point in the game did he do that.

And all Capt needs is his shield and T'challs energy daggers

I don't want to choose, I love them both too much

Originally posted by jalek moye
i dont recall cyborg ninja being able to lift hundreds of tons at one point in the game did he do that.

And all Capt needs is his shield and T'challs energy daggers

dud the daggers are a huge problem they shut down ur nervous system. Cqc does not go to snake since caps cqc involves his shield

Really now, how much can Cap do with CQC with that big shield against someone like Snake? Sure he can attack with it and block. But Snake has both of his hand ready. Even though he has a pistol and a knife. He can perform CQC much better with the weapons he has over Cap's shield.

Does Snake get his Final Smash?

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Really now, how much can Cap do with CQC with that big shield against someone like Snake? Sure he can attack with it and block. But Snake has both of his hand ready. Even though he has a pistol and a knife. He can perform CQC much better with the weapons he has over Cap's shield.

He always does cqc its how he fights close quarters its not just grappling and when it comes to the striking aspect his shield is really effective also hes still extremly good with his legs and with an energy dagger one strike and snakes done.

Snake is not a better hand to hand fighter than Cap

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Does Snake get his Final Smash?

Originally posted by jalek moye
He always does cqc its how he fights close quarters its not just grappling and when it comes to the striking aspect his shield is really effective also hes still extremly good with his legs and with an energy dagger one strike and snakes done.

In terms of H2H skill, Snake is on a different leauge. He bested Grey Fox h2h in a mine field whom was the top agent in Fox Hound not to mention the only soilder worthy of the code name"Fox". He even stalemated him inspite of the cyborg upgrade he had aquired. He defeated Big Boss h2h... the same Big Boss who killed The Boss and the entire cobra unit. He also infratrated the shaow moses base that was swarming with genetically enhanced genome soilders. He then single handily killed every Fox Hound member in a period less then 24 hours and still had the strength to not only confront metal gear but to also get the better of his genitically superior twin brother Liquid.

If I'm not mistaken wasn't the Cap owned by a sniper....whilst Snake killed Sniper Wolf whom was considered the greatest living sniper.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
If I'm not mistaken wasn't the Cap owned by a sniper....

Originally posted by The Great Galen
In terms of H2H skill, Snake is on a different leauge. He bested Grey Fox h2h in a mine field whom was the top agent in Fox Hound not to mention the only soilder worthy of the code name"Fox". He even stalemated him inspite of the cyborg upgrade he had aquired. He defeated Big Boss h2h... the same Big Boss who killed The Boss and the entire cobra unit. He also infratrated the shaow moses base that was swarming with genetically enhanced genome soilders. He then single handily killed every Fox Hound member in a period less then 24 hours and still had the strength to not only confront metal gear but to also get the better of his genitically superior twin brother Liquid.

If I'm not mistaken wasn't the Cap owned by a sniper....whilst Snake killed Sniper Wolf whom was considered the greatest living sniper.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
In terms of H2H skill, Snake is on a different leauge. He bested Grey Fox h2h in a mine field whom was the top agent in Fox Hound not to mention the only soilder worthy of the code name"Fox". He even stalemated him inspite of the cyborg upgrade he had aquired. He defeated Big Boss h2h... the same Big Boss who killed The Boss and the entire cobra unit. He also infratrated the shaow moses base that was swarming with genetically enhanced genome soilders. He then single handily killed every Fox Hound member in a period less then 24 hours and still had the strength to not only confront metal gear but to also get the better of his genitically superior twin brother Liquid.

If I'm not mistaken wasn't the Cap owned by a sniper....whilst Snake killed Sniper Wolf whom was considered the greatest living sniper.

Originally posted by jalek moye
cap got killed by a combination of a sniper and a shield agent while wearing strength dampers(which make you weaker and its hard to move in them) With out the dampers the bullet wouldnt have even hit him plus his surved shots before even 1 to the head