Originally posted by Kento
Even if the whole HV thing can be argued...he isn't going to survive Penance Stare or Kurama's attack if he gets hit by them which in this thread he is though under normal circumstances he'd never be hit by them.
sorry kento but superman heatvision aint doing shit to buu worse have taken it. I agree with the penance stare.
I could see buu clearing some of these quite easily and I could see two taking him out and that the penance stare and gogeta. The rest are playable and buu would laugh them off.
Originally posted by BradBalboa
I think this is a very dangorous situation for the attackers. Blowing Buu to bits will only make him angy, or laugh in which case henwud go into a fightign blood frenzy, and fighting people physically stronger than him like superman ( maybe) will only make Buu MORE powerful!! 😖
I disagree with superman being physically stronger then him since superman has failed on 3 occasions to handle 100 times earths gravity and needed to create something to even survive on a planet with 10 times earth gravity. 🙁
Originally posted by carver9
I disagree with superman being physically stronger then him since superman has failed on 3 occasions to handle 100 times earths gravity and needed to create something to even survive on a planet with 10 times earth gravity. 🙁
I find that had to belive as superman comes from a Planet that had Gravity 1000 X that of earths !!
but still im curious, when was that ??
Plus I wud say Buu is physically stonger i was just a bit hesatant !
Originally posted by BradBalboa
I find that had to belive as superman comes from a Planet that had Gravity 1000 X that of earths !!but still im curious, when was that ??
Plus I wud say Buu is physically stonger i was just a bit hesatant !
It happened with starman increasing supermans weight, the 10 times earth gravity happened with all star superman, the other happened when superman was trapped on a planet of aliens and the pressure of the planet was slowly killing him and I forgot where the other came from. Dragonball character dsetructive punches proves that they are stronger then superman. Stop basing your decisions off of one showing that basically contradict everything about dragonball. Ki planets has extreme gravity, thats a known fact. We dont know how much goku was lifting since he was on the main ki planet which is basically a training ground. If goku had the strength during the sayain saga to punch vegeta through two mountains, 10 tons should be shit to him.
Originally posted by carver9
It happened with starman increasing supermans weight, the 10 times earth gravity happened with all star superman, the other happened when superman was trapped on a planet of aliens and the pressure of the planet was slowly killing him and I forgot where the other came from. Dragonball character dsetructive punches proves that they are stronger then superman. Stop basing your decisions off of one showing that basically contradict everything about dragonball. Ki planets has extreme gravity, thats a known fact. We dont know how much goku was lifting since he was on the main ki planet which is basically a training ground. If goku had the strength during the sayain saga to punch vegeta through two mountains, 10 tons should be shit to him.
DBZ is very inconstsant with weigth ! plus in all star superman he was under a red sun ! Goku was shown having troube with 40 tons! he had to go ssj to shadow box with 40 ton weights on his writss and ankles, however the gravity pressure of GRAND kais planets isuknown, im guesign since KING kais is 10X that Grand Kais planet wud have a G force 100X that of earths ! since its used for the same thinsg as king kais just for even tronger fighters soo it makes sense ! even soo Goku shud be able to lift more than 40,000 tons !!
Originally posted by BradBalboa
DBZ is very inconstsant with weigth ! plus in all star superman he was under a red sun ! Goku was shown having troube with 40 tons! he had to go ssj to shadow box with 40 ton weights on his writss and ankles, however the gravity pressure of GRAND kais planets isuknown, im guesign since KING kais is 10X that Grand Kais planet wud have a G force 100X that of earths ! since its used for the same thinsg as king kais just for even tronger fighters soo it makes sense ! even soo Goku shud be able to lift more than 40,000 tons !!
I know these things, all comics are inconsistent thats why we use the word pis unless a lot of people on here think that slade is faster then superman, batman can stalemate superman, wonder woman is supermans superior, doctor light is >> superman since he did one shot him, doctor poloris is>> superman since he took on the entire league and crushed superman, a gas station >> since superman got koed by a gas station. You cant say that pis follow superman if it cant be used for goku also.
Originally posted by carver9Vegeta never stood up to 300 times Earth gravity while powerless and injured. He was fine and training when he was doing it though straining because he wasn't use to it but never powerless. And Superman didn't possess all his power...he was under a red sun. Meaning he was constantly becoming human.
Yes, I'm referring to that but lets not forget that injured/powerless vegeta withstood the gravity of 300 and superman still possessed his powers and speed. 😮
Originally posted by Kento
Vegeta never stood up to 300 times Earth gravity while powerless and injured. He was fine and training when he was doing it though straining because he wasn't use to it but never powerless. And Superman didn't possess all his power...he was under a red sun. Meaning he was constantly becoming human.
So suiperman blitzing, using heat vision, and possessing his strength doesnt indicate to you that he possessed his powers.
Vegeta was weakened unless you forgot about him struggling to destroy a asteroid and him saying that he couldnt believe it (this was before his transformation to super sayain.)
Originally posted by carver9Except there is no way he had his full power, and he was constantly getting weaker. The more time passed the even closer he got to human. So yea he was weakned. Using a saiyan as an arguement who trained to be able to withstand high gravity against somebody who can do it because of his powers and then looses them and can't stand it is a completely different scenario. The other thing you used when he was in 100x's earth gravity didn't that story take place in the past? Superman in the past wasn't able to survive going near the sun and now he can withstand being inside. So that wouldn't really qualify.
So suiperman blitzing, using heat vision, and possessing his strength doesnt indicate to you that he possessed his powers.Vegeta was weakened unless you forgot about him struggling to destroy a asteroid and him saying that he couldnt believe it (this was before his transformation to super sayain.)
Vegeta wasn't in 300 times earth gravity when he did that. He was weak from training in it sure but the ship was the gravity chamber and he wasn't in it. Even then he trained up to it so that his body could survive that gravity. His body doesn't suddenly get less durable just because his energy has been weakened.
Originally posted by BradBalboa
sorry pal, but the DBZ verse is the same size as ours. plus Frieza survived an explosion that could be seen from wayy outside the GALAXY !! Buu cud no sweat !!
Why do you keep repeating these lies after they've already been debunked numerous times?
sorry kento but superman heatvision aint doing shit to buu worse have taken it.
Not at maximum intensity
the rest are playable and buu would laugh them off.
Gungnir and Galaxian Explosion? Bullshit.
I disagree with superman being physically stronger then him since superman has failed on 3 occasions to handle 100 times earths gravity and needed to create something to even survive on a planet with 10 times earth gravity.
What? That's retarded. Superman stood on a platform simulating the gravity of a black hole (billions of times earth's gravity) way early in his career, before he became exponentially stronger. He can move planets and pulled the chains of Mageddon which moved a machine the size of the solar system.
Plus I wud say Buu is physically stonger i was just a bit hesatant !
Which would be wrong - no one in DBZ has physical strength anywhere near Superman's.
It happened with starman increasing supermans weight, the 10 times earth gravity happened with all star superman
Wait, you mean that basement dimension? The gravity was never stated. Not to mention AS Superman lifted 200 quintillion tons (200,000,000,000,000,000,000) with one arm easily:
http://img112.imageshack.us/my.php?image=as1xf1.jpg
Dragonball character dsetructive punches proves that they are stronger then superman.
Show me a dragonball character destroying an asteroid large enough to demolish the earth with a punch.
Superman did:
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/8820/planetbustingwe3.jpg
Just one example, I can show you more.
top basing your decisions off of one showing that basically contradict everything about dragonball. Ki planets has extreme gravity, thats a known fact.
You mean "Kai" planets? Sorry, the only one stated was 10x gravity for King Kai (North Kaioshin)'s planet. Stop making things up.
We dont know how much goku was lifting since he was on the main ki planet which is basically a training ground. If goku had the strength during the sayain saga to punch vegeta through two mountains, 10 tons should be shit to him.
It wouldn't matter what the gravity was, since tons is a measure of force and not mass, so therefore it's tailored specifically to whatever gravity field you're in.
DBZ is very inconstsant with weigth ! plus in all star superman he was under a red sun ! Goku was shown having troube with 40 tons! he had to go ssj to shadow box with 40 ton weights on his writss and ankles, however the gravity pressure of GRAND kais planets isuknown, im guesign since KING kais is 10X that Grand Kais planet wud have a G force 100X that of earths
Hooray for making things up
since its used for the same thinsg as king kais just for even tronger fighters soo it makes sense ! even soo Goku shud be able to lift more than 40,000 tons !!
No, because tons are a measure of force and not mass. Lifting 40 tons in 100x gravity is the same as lifting 40 tons in 1x gravity, just that the mass of the weights will be different.
Yes, I'm referring to that but lets not forget that injured/powerless vegeta withstood the gravity of 300 and superman still possessed his powers and speed
Under a red sun they quickly diminish and disappear. And Vegeta nearly killed himself in that gravity.
I'll give you the others, but:
batman can stalemate superman
If you're talking about Hush, Superman was mind - controlled and doing his best to fight it, Batman even pointed it out
wonder woman is supermans superio
When did she ever defeat him in a fair fight?
doctor light is >> superman since he did one shot him,
Because of the nature of his powers. There are more ways to fight than just brute force, you know.
doctor poloris is>> superman since he took on the entire league and crushed superman
He was at that point since his power was at an insane level
You cant say that pis follow superman if it cant be used for goku also.
It's not PIS if he doesn't have any better quantifiable feats.
What's his best strength feat? Probably kicking Frieza through two islands. That's maybe 2000 tons of force or so (based on kinetic energy).
So suiperman blitzing, using heat vision, and possessing his strength doesnt indicate to you that he possessed his powers.
At a greatly reduced level.
Vegeta was weakened unless you forgot about him struggling to destroy a asteroid and him saying that he couldnt believe it (this was before his transformation to super sayain.
Non - canon filler.
Anyway Gungnir and Galaxian Explosion both horribly overkill Buu
http://img396.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2645xh9.jpg
Gogeta's attack kills him
HV and IMP have a good possibility of killing him
Sinning Tree and Penance Stare might incapacitate him
WWH punches, Bellcross' life drain, and Akuman's beam all might inconvenience/injure him
The rest either do nothing or I don't know enough about them
I'm ignoring the Falcon Punch because of the joke/meme component, I want to make a serious post
