IG Thanos vs Super Spectre from COIE

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
First, how did the Spectre defeat the AM? He failed and couldn't do it alone and somehow that is used to say he defeated him…okay. Second, everybody doesn't agree that the LT and Spectre are the same power level. One is second in command to the TOAA and the other well isn't second in command at all. He's just the wraith of God. So, basically yeah that is a lot of power but not the diversity AND power the Thanos with the IG would wield. Speaking of which the LT wished it away and for them not to work together but Adam didn't fight him on it. if he didn't it wouldn't have been an easy fight. I don’t see spectre being able to do this at all. One is a judge and jury the other is the wraith of god. This is a tough battle no doubt but with all the gems at his disposal and this is Thanos for God's sake I think he uses them all for a majority victory 6/10

Get out. Go read COIE. And until you read it and actually understand what happened in the story, stfugtfo

^ Well... he's right about the Spectre failing. The Spectre tried to stop him from destroying the last remaining five universes. He completely failed in that endeavor. What ended up happening as a completely accidental by-product of their struggle or through a last ditch (because-it's-better-than-nothing-if-he-can't-win) effort by Spectre was that billions upon billions of people died and a handful were spared by reintegrating into a single universe. That... that pretty much spells failure to me. As for Thanos w/ IG vs Spectre, well... I'll leave that to others.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Dont' forget that The LT jobbered to warlock by not even knowing if he could beat Warlock with the IG. He also jobbered to an alternate Reed Richards.

More likely he doubted if he had the authority to act against warlock like he didn't have the authority to act against Rune with the IG (the three faces wasn't in agreement). Btw what do you mean by jobbing to a Being that became God over all universes?

As for the alternate, I have no idea.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Well... he's right about the Spectre failing. The Spectre tried to stop him from destroying the last remaining five universes. He completely failed in that endeavor. What ended up happening as a completely accidental by-product of their struggle or through a last ditch (because-it's-better-than-nothing-if-he-can't-win) effort by Spectre was that billions upon billions of people died and a handful were spared by reintegrating into a single universe. That... that pretty much spells failure to me. As for Thanos w/ IG vs Spectre, well... I'll leave that to others.

...............Once again, READ THE BOOK. 🤨

Originally posted by fangirl101
Dont' forget that The LT jobbered to warlock by not even knowing if he could beat Warlock with the IG. He also jobbered to an alternate Reed Richards.

dur

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
...............Once again, READ THE BOOK. 🤨

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I'm reading it right now. Trust me. Spectre wanted to save the five remaining universes. He couldn't. Best he could do was save one universe and we don't even know if that was a product of his purposeful actions or a complete accidental by-product. There is absolutely no evidence that Spectre meant to combine the five remaining universes into one. Absolutely none. And that'd be an utter failure on his part anyway, since all those poor innocent billions upon billions of souls from the other four universes essentially died because they could not be integrated in the resulting universe. Hell, he didn't cast vengeance upon him for having destroyed countless other universes as Anti-Monitor obviously survived. Seriously. I think you need to go buy a copy and read those pages again.

^ Saving people may not be his job, at least before Hal Jordan transformed into the Spirit of Redemption, but that is kind of nit-picking. I could also nit-pick and say that Spectre has never outsourced the job of vengeance to other people's hands. He was rendered comatose and Anti-Monitor was still running around. Hence, failure. But everybody's got their own opinion. I'm just saying that there are people who think Spectre failed in Crisis on Infinite Earths.

And they're wrong. Spectre's job was not to stop AM. That's why he was KOed. He violated the order of the Presence. Spectre couldn't kill AM without killing off all the heroes. The only thing he could do was merge the universes and direct the energy back at AM. But in trying to destroy AM, he went too far and the Presence told him to stay down.

^ Funny. I must be missing pages from my TPB of Crisis on Infinite Earths where the Presence makes a cameo and tells Spectre to stand down.

Should I ask for a refund from Barnes and Noble? 😂

^^^^ I must admit that was funny.

I'm still waiting for somebody to tell me how being second in command compared to 4,5 or whatever never can equate to power. I laid out an analogy and have yet to hear anything to the contrary. All I hear is speculation that it doesn't necessarily mean he was more power. However, that is nothing more then speculation when the more concrete proof when all us fails is what the chain of command is usually does equate to their respective power levels. Also, I never said being versatile always means victory show me where I said this... However, this isn't just being versatile with ordinary powers this is being versatile with with potential unlimited power and control over power, time, space reality etc etc. The Spectre well all he has in power and as we've seen often times that isn't even good enough.....

^ See we can get along! hug

As long as we don't discuss Juggs and WWH. bash

^^^^^^^ I agree lol

Originally posted by Philosophía
I'm pretty sure that I can prove that Spectre is overall more powerfull than Living Tribunal. I'd even be willing to do this in a battlezone if anyone is willing to do it, although I will not do it with debators of Quanchi's calibur ..

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Funny. I must be missing pages from my TPB of Crisis on Infinite Earths where the Presence makes a cameo and tells Spectre to stand down.

Should I ask for a refund from Barnes and Noble? 😂

THEN WHY was he resisting? Only the Presence himself could tell Spectre to stand down.

Originally posted by RageOfTheGods
Well seeing as how a 5D Djinn is the next step from an Imp and a 5D Djinn was defeating Imps here and there.......I assume a 5D Djinn has a good as chance as any of defeating Thanos.........

Anyways........

Who has Thanos defeated that is more powerful than Universal.......it has been a while since I read it but I do not recall any Multiversal beings trying to defeat Thanos.........

What has Thanos shown that he has a chance against a being who was struggling for the dominance of the Multiverse and was so powerful that he saw concepts that not even his master himself could imagine........

This is a one on one battle and the ig user has control over all these aspects and this isnt about who can destroy the multiverse or omniverse.

This isnt about who can cause more collateral damage either.

Its about who wins this particular fight.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Now all you need is another person, and a circle of people.

^^^^ Why did Master leave?

Originally posted by fangirl101
Dont' forget that The LT jobbered to warlock by not even knowing if he could beat Warlock with the IG. He also jobbered to an alternate Reed Richards.

Warlock backed down.

A few things here:

Thanos with the power gem, was able to stomp Drax, Hulk, and other high-end class 100's effortlessly with his physical strength, durability, and invulnerability.

With complete mastery of time, plus his gauntlet-granted mastery of space, Thanos could very well use the gauntlet's abilities to Hunter Zolomon (Zoom) or Runner w/ space gem effects if he felt so inclined. Spectre wouldn't have a prayer of touching him.

Lastly, we all know how Spectre has struggled with reality warpers as seen with Mxy and Emperor Joker. Thanos has those same abilities to an equal or even higher degree, as described by the Reality gem..."Laws of physics be damned." That's before being backed by the Power Gem, which boosts its ability to an infinite level.

The only way COIE Spectre wins is if he gets lucky or Thanos gets careless...or both. I highly doubt either will happen.