Originally posted by Enyalus
A few things here:Thanos with the power gem, was able to stomp Drax, Hulk, and other high-end class 100's effortlessly with his physical strength, durability, and invulnerability.
With complete mastery of time, plus his gauntlet-granted mastery of space, Thanos could very well use the gauntlet's abilities to Hunter Zolomon (Zoom) or Runner w/ space gem effects if he felt so inclined. Spectre wouldn't have a prayer of touching him.
Lastly, we all know how Spectre has struggled with reality warpers as seen with Mxy and Emperor Joker. Thanos has those same abilities to an equal or even higher degree, as described by the Reality gem..."Laws of physics be damned." That's before being backed by the Power Gem, which boosts its ability to an infinite level.
The only way COIE Spectre wins is if he gets lucky or Thanos gets careless...or both. I highly doubt either will happen.
My thoughts exactly and well said +1
Originally posted by TricksterPriestThere are several plausible explanations:THEN WHY was he resisting? Only the Presence himself could tell Spectre to stand down.
1) He didn't want lesser beings usurping his powers. The fight would end one way or another while he was laid low.
2) He was trying to recuperate himself to rejoin the fight personally and couldn't spare any power to the lesser beings. The fight happened to end before he could restore himself.
3) He didn't want to fight the Anti-Monitor again since their magicks would most likely be a non-factor as Earth was transported into the antimatter universe. He left it to the heroes on Earth.
All of which are possible and more probable than your theory. I prefer this though:
4) Simply because the plot required it and the writer ignored any possible motivation or outside persuasion.
There are no indications that the Presence ever chastized the Spectre. Not in the pages of Crisis on Infinite Earths, not in any recap pages in subsequent issues that reference the first Crisis, nowhere except in the very creative and active imagination of a few KMC'ers. So, while your position is possible, I don't find it probable. Considering that it requires extrapolation and a fair bit of imagination and no evidence can be found within the pages of Crisis on Infinite Earths itself, I don't think you should hold any of us to task for failing to agree with your interpretation. At the very least, don't ask us to get out and read it again before posting our own opinions.
Originally posted by Enyalus
A few things here:Thanos with the power gem, was able to stomp Drax, Hulk, and other high-end class 100's effortlessly with his physical strength, durability, and invulnerability.
With complete mastery of time, plus his gauntlet-granted mastery of space, Thanos could very well use the gauntlet's abilities to Hunter Zolomon (Zoom) or Runner w/ space gem effects if he felt so inclined. Spectre wouldn't have a prayer of touching him.
Lastly, we all know how Spectre has struggled with reality warpers as seen with Mxy and Emperor Joker. Thanos has those same abilities to an equal or even higher degree, as described by the Reality gem..."Laws of physics be damned." That's before being backed by the Power Gem, which boosts its ability to an infinite level.
The only way COIE Spectre wins is if he gets lucky or Thanos gets careless...or both. I highly doubt either will happen.
LMAO to Mxy being able to turn the gems into jelly beans. You seem pretty versed in things Fan and to not know the powers a wielder of the IG has surprises. Rest assured he couldn't do such a thing. However, regardless of whether you believe which reality warper is superior the fact still remains that Spectre has shown a complete weakness for it. By the way I'm sure you liked my analogy better then yours huh buddy? I hope it's clear that one can surmise that 2nd in command is more powerful then 4,5,6 or whatever more times then that. That isn't just possible it's probable.
The IG wouldn't be able to beat Mxy. But seeing as how you're hanging off Thanos's purple nutsack, I'm not going to bother telling you why. 😉
And in case you haven't noticed, Spectre's power depends on the whims of the Presence. And in a forum match, he is presumed to have the go-head from his boss. 😄
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
LMAO to Mxy being able to turn the gems into jelly beans. You seem pretty versed in things Fan and to not know the powers a wielder of the IG has surprises. Rest assured he couldn't do such a thing. However, regardless of whether you believe which reality warper is superior the fact still remains that Spectre has shown a complete weakness for it. By the way I'm sure you liked my analogy better then yours huh buddy? I hope it's clear that one can surmise that 2nd in command is more powerful then 4,5,6 or whatever more times then that. That isn't just possible it's probable.
I never said IG Thanos would beat Mxy. He clearly can't for the reason Fangirl just mentioned...that being that Mxy can exist in our world and toy around with the editors.
My point was that neither Mxy nor Emperor Joker needed to resort to that in order to mess with Spectre. It was solely reality warping feats. Which Thanos can do to an infinite degree within the universe they are battling. That's that.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
The IG wouldn't be able to beat Mxy. But seeing as how you're hanging off Thanos's purple nutsack, I'm not going to bother telling you why. 😉And in case you haven't noticed, Spectre's power depends on the whims of the Presence. And in a forum match, he is presumed to have the go-head from his boss. 😄
Originally posted by TricksterPriestThe ig most certainly would be able to defeat Mxy and rather easily imho.
The IG wouldn't be able to beat Mxy. But seeing as how you're hanging off Thanos's purple nutsack, I'm not going to bother telling you why. 😉And in case you haven't noticed, Spectre's power depends on the whims of the Presence. And in a forum match, he is presumed to have the go-head from his boss. 😄
This is about Spectre not Spectre and the presence and I have seen the spectre fail and need outside help to deal with some of these big threats.
Again we take what we see on panel and I see Thanos beating the Spectre in a variety of ways.